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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:37 am 
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Car Models: 1992 900 S Turbo 16v, 1988 900 Turbo 8v
After sucking out gearbox oil out of my 1991 c900 gearbox, i discovered that a small plastic spout attachment (at the end of a clear plastic pipe) never made it out of the gearbox. Disappointed doesn't even cover my feelings; :wall: Its sitting somewhere in the bowels of the gearbox case.

I'm going to try a few things to get it out, but if push comes to shove, i need a trusty garage to remove, strip gearbox, remove the piece of plastic, and refit everything back.

I'm in Nottingham, so will trailer the car to a garage. I've rung up a few local saab specialists who won't undertake the job. Wes @ Nottingham Saab is always my first call, but he can't do it for at least a month.

Can anyone recommend a garage in east mids/south Yorkshire or fairly closely, that has the expertise to do this work? I've built a high level of trust with Wes and Nottingham Saab, so I'm asking about other garages that you trust equally.

Btw - the gearbox in the car is probably the best gearbox I've ever owned (with 72k miles on it), so a rebuild shouldn't be needed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:00 am 
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Could try Carnetix in Melton Mowbray?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:12 am 
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Dr Rock wrote:
Could try Carnetix in Melton Mowbray?


I agree, Glenn and Becky at Carnetix are excellent at what they do, and very friendly as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:30 am 
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Access panel off the side and see if you can fish it out?

Alternatively (Devil's advocate mode, and easy to suggest when it isn't my car)... but the gearset is pretty tough, wouldn't a small piece of plastic just get instantly disintegrated if it went through the teeth?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:36 am 
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Mark_A wrote:
... but the gearset is pretty tough, wouldn't a small piece of plastic just get instantly disintegrated if it went through the teeth?


I must admit I also though this :) Although years ago I had something come adrift in the gearbox of my 99 turbo which jammed the box left me coasting in the outside lane of the M1, Stripping it down didn't reveal how it had locked up but the forces involved twisted the pinion straight off the end of its shaft, it then punched a nice hole in the casing. Probably better to get it removed........


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:58 am 
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Mark_A wrote:
Access panel off the side and see if you can fish it out?

Alternatively (Devil's advocate mode, and easy to suggest when it isn't my car)... but the gearset is pretty tough, wouldn't a small piece of plastic just get instantly disintegrated if it went through the teeth?


That was the first thing i did! Took both side cover plates off (5th gear/reverse and the other one nearer to primaries) had a look the best i could (it's pretty tight) but couldn't find anything. I've bought an endoscope camera so going to try with that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:03 am 
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Andy_Viking wrote:
Dr Rock wrote:
Could try Carnetix in Melton Mowbray?


I agree, Glenn and Becky at Carnetix are excellent at what they do, and very friendly as well.


Brilliant. I shall give them a ring. Someone also mentioned Malcolm Miles in Leicester.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:06 am 
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Andy_Viking wrote:
Mark_A wrote:
... but the gearset is pretty tough, wouldn't a small piece of plastic just get instantly disintegrated if it went through the teeth?


I must admit I also though this :) Although years ago I had something come adrift in the gearbox of my 99 turbo which jammed the box left me coasting in the outside lane of the M1, Stripping it down didn't reveal how it had locked up but the forces involved twisted the pinion straight off the end of its shaft, it then punched a nice hole in the casing. Probably better to get it removed........


I'm thinking it's the safest (albeit most expensive) thing to do. I only noticed the problem after refilling with oil again, so I'm worried it's floated into the main chamber and could easily throw something out, and destroy the internals


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:00 pm 
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thetwofingertyper wrote:
After sucking out gearbox oil out of my 1991 c900 gearbox,

Why were you doing this?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:42 pm 
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Dr Rock wrote:
thetwofingertyper wrote:
After sucking out gearbox oil out of my 1991 c900 gearbox,

Why were you doing this?


Siphoning oil out or changing it? Later gearboxes didn't come with a drain plug. You either have to remove diff cover or siphon it out. Plus the oil level was very low (according to the fill nut in-built dipstick).


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Have you tried Hallam & Sutherns in Swadlincote?

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This might sound rough and messy but I think before I removed the box I'd try a few things first:
(1) check aforementioned lost plastic thingy wasn't already lost and isn't in fact sitting on the bench (been there)
(2) half decent smartphone endoscope in the drivers side cover and have a proper look around, see if you can see it.
(3) if I was at the point the item was lost and my next step was to remove the box perhaps I'd refill it with oil, and take the side cover off whilst full, see if it rolled out into the handily positioned basin along with the deluge of oil. Just a thought that if it was once afloat, it may wash out with the oil.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:51 am 
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ianlaw wrote:
This might sound rough and messy but I think before I removed the box I'd try a few things first:
(1) check aforementioned lost plastic thingy wasn't already lost and isn't in fact sitting on the bench (been there)
(2) half decent smartphone endoscope in the drivers side cover and have a proper look around, see if you can see it.
(3) if I was at the point the item was lost and my next step was to remove the box perhaps I'd refill it with oil, and take the side cover off whilst full, see if it rolled out into the handily positioned basin along with the deluge of oil. Just a thought that if it was once afloat, it may wash out with the oil.


Thanks for this...
1/ it's definitely in the gearbox!
2/ that's an excellent idea re: endoscope.
3/ I've still got plenty of oil left so will try that.


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