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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:03 pm 
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Hmm really considering getting the 595rsr's as I really fancy something grippier, problem being that now the weather is/will be far from perfect in the oncoming months. Would I be insane if I were to run them during the winter? I do have winter tyres on a set of wheels which I normally pop on if it starts snowing but I'm not fan of them as they are kind of useless on anything but snow/slush/ice/cold weather, and at this part of the country we don't get much of these.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:09 pm 
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Tis an interesting thought Tomanov, tempted myself if they're available in my size with load rating, and not silly priced. I don't want them to be any downgrade from the RS3 and RS2 in the wet though, which is asking a lot.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:10 am 
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I doubt they'd be a match to the rs3 when it comes to wet roads and im not looking for them to beat dedicated rain tyre. However i really want something which has good/excellent dry grip and adequate wet capabilities and by the sound of it these seem to tick the boxes for me especially bearing in mind the price is excellent.

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I wouldn't even contemplate running soft sticky trackday tyres as road tyres on a daily driver. Way too short-lived and way too lacking grip in properly wet conditions.

If you saw Martin's C900 go off at Croft in 2008, you'd understand why...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:50 pm 
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If they last over 6 months (around 4k miles) i'm fine with it, don't like running old rubber anyway and I can't remember last set of road tyres I've run below 3.5mm as most of them by then are not half of what they were performance wise.

They are not proper track tyres, however how they cope with wet weather or temperatures below 15c is something I don't know.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:14 am 
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Dunlop Direzza's best I have used.

Yoko A048r's are my current track tyre, very expensive but they do not come close to matching the Dunlop Direzza's

I have used a few other makes but they were 2nd hand so a direct comparison with the above would not be fair. I would place them I this order Khumo's Michelin cup sport then toyo's.

I had planned to return to Dunlops but I got a deal I could not say no to :D so arriving today is a new set of Avon ZZR's 225/45/16's

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:36 am 
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As flip top says don't use track day tyres on the road when the weather is any thing other than summer , they will let go so easily on cold wet greasy roads in a big way with no warning , they are great for track days and hot summer use only , so you will need another set of tyres that you are happy to use in the colder/wetter winter months
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:06 am 
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New Track tyres arrived :D


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Toyo 888? And what size, very nice


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:48 am 
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Toyo 888? And what size, very nice


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SaabnScotland wrote:
Avon ZZR 225/45/16


You going to try them out this weekend at Marham Stu :)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:26 pm 
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You going to try them out this weekend at Marham Stu :)


Haha I wish, needed way more notice but will be back next year, it will be interesting to see new track layout.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:09 pm 
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Just fitted the Nangkang and Kuhmo C03's on some 7.5J rims. The kuhmos will go on the back as not sure if they will catch on the front. I have 8 brand new ones so got to see if they can be used.....I hope so as they are brilliant. Might have to modify front arches, something I've been mulling over for years!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:33 pm 
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Just fitted the Nangkang and Kuhmo C03's on some 7.5J rims. The kuhmos will go on the back as not sure if they will catch on the front. I have 8 brand new ones so got to see if they can be used.....I hope so as they are brilliant. Might have to modify front arches, something I've been mulling over for years!


I have been looking at 7.5 rims as the the 7's are minimum size not the optimum size for 225/45/16's I see the lotus guys who use Avons in there race series use them with 8ins rims.....

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7 inch wide rims are fine for 225, it's the standard size Saab used on the 9-3 and 9-5 models with 225/45s.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:34 pm 
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7 inch wide rims are fine for 225, it's the standard size Saab used on the 9-3 and 9-5 models with 225/45s.


Note, A track tyre is wider than standard road tyre. A 225 track tyre is wider than a 225 road tyre by up to 10mm IME :? I know this cos I can get 4 225 tyres across the 9000 boot and have to pack the sides out a bit with some carpet, whereas, 4 225 track tyres is a tight squeeze. This is why I'm worried about the kuhmos I bought, previously I had 220/640/17's and they just fitted the front....might have to take the arch cover off.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:38 pm 
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Not quite for the track but I'm after advice...
In using the same wheels & tyres on the v6 as was the 2L, RS3 at front and RS2 at the back. For some reason I get understeer at the front and less overall grip on the wet on the v6. I mean when it's raining and the ground is wet, deep puddles & large standing water I know there's nowt we can do about.
The suspension is all stock on the v6, whereas the 2L had everything replaced and upgraded where possible, but at 30mph+ I'm not wheel hopping or anything silly like that. I'm just wondering why the wet grip is noticeably lacking at the moment. Is it the weight difference at the front end?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:10 pm 
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Okay, quick review of the Nankang NS2R's......heat up fast, outstanding grip, sidewalls don't fold. Didn't run them on the back, has Federal RSR's but they broke away quite early, but progressively. Reckon NS2R's on the back will be excellent. Down side, they are noisy and feel harsh with my hard suspension set up on bumpy roads but I can live with that. They get a good mark on wet weather grip but alas it was a gorgeous dry day so cannot confirm this one way or another. For the price, these are my new tyres of choice!


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That's a canny write up, I'm still on the fence as I want wet grip. I'm finding the limits of the RS3 and RS2. Naturally I want more grip :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:27 pm 
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Sounds like you need 3 sets of wheels and tyres Dan , winter , summer , and track day
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