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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:18 pm 
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Some cracking numbers Damo and knocked Gary off the top spot in the hybrid turbo build catagory. It's a very good result!
Keep it up!


Cheers buddy.

These turned up today, great service and very quick delivery from MWPerformance

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Going to wrap the downpipe and get them fitted ASAP.


Been reading your thread but I have just recently purchased a 93 v6 and would love to pick your brain

I am confused about the cat convertor situation are there 2 cat's ? Are the exhaust bits you have bought from a vectra v6 turbo? If so is it a straight fit?

Your final power figure is that on standard internals ?

Sorry for all the questions but I am kinda inspired now

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:55 pm 
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Dagupan_john wrote:

Been reading your thread but I have just recently purchased a 93 v6 and would love to pick your brain

I am confused about the cat convertor situation are there 2 cat's ? Are the exhaust bits you have bought from a vectra v6 turbo? If so is it a straight fit?

Your final power figure is that on standard internals ?

Sorry for all the questions but I am kinda inspired now

Love the car by the way


Hi and thanks.

Yes there are two cats, one just after the turbo in the downpipe and one in the mid-pipe under the car. At the moment I'm running the stock downpipe but with the cat smashed out of it. I'd have kept it this way but I also realised that part of my mid-pipe is still the original pipework so decided to change both just to be sure.

These are made for a Vectra VXR but fit in the same way, quite a few Saab 2.8's are running the MWP kit as there aren't many off the shelf options. The only other one I've seen is the TX Autosport 3 inch downpipe which is cheaper but out of stock, plus over the years there have been fitment issues however that was a while ago.

Yes I'm on standard internals still, these engines are pretty strong, there are some running 500bhp on stock engines.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 6:31 pm 
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Damocell wrote:
Dagupan_john wrote:

Been reading your thread but I have just recently purchased a 93 v6 and would love to pick your brain

I am confused about the cat convertor situation are there 2 cat's ? Are the exhaust bits you have bought from a vectra v6 turbo? If so is it a straight fit?

Your final power figure is that on standard internals ?

Sorry for all the questions but I am kinda inspired now

Love the car by the way


Hi and thanks.

Yes there are two cats, one just after the turbo in the downpipe and one in the mid-pipe under the car. At the moment I'm running the stock downpipe but with the cat smashed out of it. I'd have kept it this way but I also realised that part of my mid-pipe is still the original pipework so decided to change both just to be sure.

These are made for a Vectra VXR but fit in the same way, quite a few Saab 2.8's are running the MWP kit as there aren't many off the shelf options. The only other one I've seen is the TX Autosport 3 inch downpipe which is cheaper but out of stock, plus over the years there have been fitment issues however that was a while ago.

Yes I'm on standard internals still, these engines are pretty strong, there are some running 500bhp on stock engines.


Ok thanks for the information

One more question have you replaced the radiator yet ? I've heard it's a weak point on the V6 and should be one of the first things to replace along with the intercooler.


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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:03 pm 
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Hi Damo,
Cripes, you don't hang about do you. Props (as the young ones say; )
Just a quick question please, is that going to be a completely decat exhaust now?

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:58 am 
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Dagupan_john wrote:

One more question have you replaced the radiator yet ? I've heard it's a weak point on the V6 and should be one of the first things to replace along with the intercooler.


No, not replaced the radiator, the standard one is fine so long as it is in good condition. There is an "upgraded" one from DO88 but quite a few Saab and Vectra 2.8 owners have experienced leaks from them splitting.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Hi Damo,
Cripes, you don't hang about do you. Props (as the young ones say; )
Just a quick question please, is that going to be a completely decat exhaust now?


Cheers.

It's already on a stock downpipe with the cat smashed out of it, this is just to make sure there are no restrictions as the downpipe and first part of the midpipe narrows below 3 inch. The 3 inch midpipe that is already on the car has a sport cat in it so its all above board. We are going to cut the new midpipe and use a slip joint to fit it to the one on the car before the sport cat.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Not done this for about 15 or so years, first attempt was pretty poor...

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So took it all off and reapplied...

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Not perfect but a lot better than before

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Damocell wrote:
Cheers.

It's already on a stock downpipe with the cat smashed out of it, this is just to make sure there are no restrictions as the downpipe and first part of the midpipe narrows below 3 inch. The 3 inch midpipe that is already on the car has a sport cat in it so its all above board. We are going to cut the new midpipe and use a slip joint to fit it to the one on the car before the sport cat.


Ahhh, gotcha! Thanks.
I might be following your strategy (thanks) but when looking at the kit you bought was wondering...

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Please stop posting... :)
We have recently sold our 2.0 Aero, and this thread
has given me V6 fever!

Nice work Sir, it is a beautiful car.


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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:11 am 
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slimboydim wrote:
Please stop posting... :)
We have recently sold our 2.0 Aero, and this thread
has given me V6 fever!

Nice work Sir, it is a beautiful car.


Thanks, can't say I'll stop posting though :D

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:15 am 
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Not the best week.....

Took a trip to Aura on Monday to have the new turbo mapped in and turns out I've lost 30bhp. The car was a little slower on the new turbo and quite a bit slower once the downpipe was changed but it's a bit of a head scratcher.

My old turbo was close by so changed back to that, same result, still 25bhp down with airflow down from the original 306g/s As it was being changed Gary discovered a crack in my rear up pipe, not sure how long that had been there but will need to be changed before anything else happens

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Once that is sorted I'll take some readings of airflow and dragy runs to see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't, the old downpipe will be put back on to make sure that isn't the issue.Can't see why the downpipe would make a difference but we'll see what next week brings

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 5:46 pm 
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Life throws curveballs at us all the time Damo. You've had worse times and you'll have better ones.
Looking at how far you've come I'm confident you'll have her back up and running well in no time along with the subsequent visit to the rollers to realise new gains.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Bought some ice blocks last month, but having fitted them I didn't think they suited the Steel Grey colour...

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So decided to do a bit of DIYing :D

Pretty darn pleased with the results

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Final shot to show the difference between the ice blocks and my hybrids

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 11:30 am 
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Quad_cam_turbo wrote:
Life throws curveballs at us all the time Damo. You've had worse times and you'll have better ones.
Looking at how far you've come I'm confident you'll have her back up and running well in no time along with the subsequent visit to the rollers to realise new gains.


Yep, not ideal but new up pipe and old downpipe are going on this Friday so fingers crossed will be back to full power.

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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Much prefer the DIY lights, great look.
I'm not a big fan of Ice Blocks, although I know a lot of Saabists love them...


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 Post subject: Re: Finally in a 2.8 V6
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Seen that sometime ago on SaabCentral and wanted to do it for ages but never got round to it.
I think they look much better like that.

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