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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:02 pm 
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Hello all, so I've just acquired a Saab 900 which seems likely to have never left the South West :D
So I've just recently moved to Plymouth and have been hankering for a new project car. Have wanted a Saab for ages but was planning to just find a summer car when this popped up.

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I'll be honest in saying I did almost no research before buying other than checking the what the engine was and a relative price comparison. I paid £2400 so would definitely like to know what you vets think of that.
So she is a 1986 800, I'm guessing about as basic as you can get. 2.0 single carb, 8 valve, 4 speed, manual everything. Not sure if heated seats and discs all around would be standard? But that is about it for features, other than having the Ronal alloys which I'm told are rare.

She is about 107,000 miles, pretty clean all around. Some surface rust around the side badges and some small spots. The bottom of the doors are rather holey, which I was a bit worried about but repair panels seem readily available.

It is rather bleak outside at the moment but I will tidy her up a bit and get some more pictures.

In terms of what I want to do with her she's a second car but I do want to try and get out fairly regularly. Would mostly just like to clean up the rust and keep her tidy, maybe an aftermarket rev gauge. I have considered whether to try and get a 16 valve and 5 speed to up the usability a bit, but having driven an hour from Truro to Plymouth I was fairly happy.

I will have a look around but happy to be pointed in the right direction for useful threads.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:08 pm 
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Welcome to UKS :D

Moving this one to ''Your Cars'' as I know it is likely to turn into more of a car related thread rather than a brief introduction.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:18 pm 
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This is the Newquay car that was on C&C and eBay recently if I'm not mistaken.

Not too bad a price for it as similar cars in similar condition are going for between £1500 & £2500

Yes single carb giving 100bhp when new and yes it has discs all round.

The front handbrake Ronal Silverspokes (which yours are) are not as rare as people make out. Between £100 & £300 will buy you a set, price being dependant on the condition.
The centre caps however are getting hard to get hold of and can command good prices by themselves if in good condition.

The rarity claim for these Ronals is often confused with the later rear handbrake version of the same wheel, which are fairly rare and fetch reasonable prices when sold (usually close to double that of similar condition front handbrake Ronals).

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:44 pm 
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This is the Newquay car that was on C&C and eBay recently if I'm not mistaken.

Not too bad a price for it as similar cars in similar condition are going for between £1500 & £2500

Yes single carb giving 100bhp when new and yes it has discs all round.

The front handbrake Ronal Silverspokes (which yours are) are not as rare as people make out. Between £100 & £300 will buy you a set, price being dependant on the condition.
The centre caps however are getting hard to get hold of and can command good prices by themselves if in good condition.

The rarity claim for these Ronals is often confused with the later rear handbrake version of the same wheel, which are fairly rare and fetch reasonable prices when sold (usually close to double that of similar condition front handbrake Ronals).


Yes you're right it was advertised in Newquay, but the owner was actually in Truro.

Glad the price is relatively in range, I didn't have a thorough look and I guess the NAs are arguably rarer? (if less desirable)

Not too worried if the wheels aren't really that rare, they look pretty good anyway and probably won't change them. But good to know :)

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:58 pm 
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They are by far one of the best looking wheels for an early flat front C900.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:05 pm 
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Yes you're right it was advertised in Newquay, but the owner was actually in Truro.



If I'd known that I might have taken a look at it when I was down there three weeks ago, I tend to avoid Newquay.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 3:41 pm 
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A few photos just to show the condition of it

Interior looking pretty tidy other than some very dirty looking rear carpets. Also I failed to notice the headlining is pretty well gone.
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Door bottoms, which as I said I'd read but there were no pictures. With repair panels available I'm hoping it won't be too expensive. Previous owner said he fitted new window scrapers which was apparently the cause of the rust.
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The front wing/bonnet rust which is about the only thing I think I can tackle myself.
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And then a couple of things that maybe should have put me off buying the car...

Now I noticed this rust spot in the pictures but then totally forgot about it. Thought it was the boot seal not the rear window seal. Will probably have to find somewhere to get a quote for this and the doors.
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Finally the rear light cluster which has been sealed in, but is still leaking... Now I have it under a car port (which still drips) and it came with a car cover so I'm not overly worried, just something to keep an eye on.
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:25 pm 
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I've a soft spot for the "lesser" variants out there. They are just as much a part of a car maker's history as the exotic and sporty models. And just as drivable and enjoyable on a day to day basis.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:56 pm 
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DeeDub8 wrote:
I've a soft spot for the "lesser" variants out there. They are just as much a part of a car maker's history as the exotic and sporty models. And just as drivable and enjoyable on a day to day basis.


It's good to see there's a number of them on the forum, very much an affordable classic it seems.
Though there are some bits that are specific to the 8v, which might become a pain. I was just looking at the power steering pump for example since mine looks a bit worse for wear.

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Power steering? Luxury!
My 99 has no such nonsense. :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:03 am 
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Looks pretty clean overall that. Plenty to keep you busy but hopefully nothing that'll stop you driving and enjoying it.

No mention of structural rust (not even an advisory) on a quick scan of the MOT history, which in itself is quite remarkable!

Despite the above, and not wanting to wee on your new car chips, it might be worth having a look at the underneath on a ramp before investing too much time and money, just to make sure it wasn't being MOT'd by Stevie Wonder...

Usual rot spots on the front are lower wishbone mounts / driveshaft tunnels and on the rear just about everywhere, but especially boot corners, suspension mounting points and the killer would be serious rust to the upper spring seats. I've not seen a C900 recently that hasn't been going in some or all of the above.

Your wheel arches don't appear to be bubbling though, which is usually a good sign so hopefully you've got a good 'un!

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:30 pm 
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Power steering? Luxury!
My 99 has no such nonsense. :D


My JYN 11W 900 GLs didn't have power steering.


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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:26 pm 
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Mark_A wrote:
Looks pretty clean overall that. Plenty to keep you busy but hopefully nothing that'll stop you driving and enjoying it.

No mention of structural rust (not even an advisory) on a quick scan of the MOT history, which in itself is quite remarkable!

Despite the above, and not wanting to wee on your new car chips, it might be worth having a look at the underneath on a ramp before investing too much time and money, just to make sure it wasn't being MOT'd by Stevie Wonder...

Usual rot spots on the front are lower wishbone mounts / driveshaft tunnels and on the rear just about everywhere, but especially boot corners, suspension mounting points and the killer would be serious rust to the upper spring seats. I've not seen a C900 recently that hasn't been going in some or all of the above.

Your wheel arches don't appear to be bubbling though, which is usually a good sign so hopefully you've got a good 'un!


Yeah I had a very quick look around, always get a bit nervous looking over a car and I had my friend who drove me waiting.

It's been to MGD Motor Trading in Cornwall, who are a Saab specialist, for a service. All the recent MOTs seem usual garages.
It visited the same garage from 96 to 2011 when it seems it went off the road for 5 years.

But yes I'm planning to take it to a garage who can give it a look over on a lift and get a quote for welding, look for any dodgy bits.

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:30 pm 
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I know MGD (based in Troon), they used to know their stuff.
Not been for years so cannot vouch for them now, but I still think they are a respected specialist.

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I don't think that the current MGD crew in Troon are the original ones. Just before I left Penzance in 2019 John (the owner) told me that they were moving to a bigger place Newquay way. When I visited my son in Falmouth last year I popped in and all the familiar faces were gone - as was the caravan that John used as his office.


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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 9:19 am 
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Many thanks Mal for the rear ashtray!
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Took the car to a local garage and they were very impressed how clean it is underneath. It was just a quick 10 minutes so didn't poke up into every corner but nothing that worried us. And best of all he didn't charge me! So now my new favourite garage.

He did however recommend I change the radiator, which I would have done eventually anyway but it seems sensible given summer is coming up. Missing quite a few cores(?) and the edges seem very crusty. Will also give me a chance to clean underneath the rad and the reservoir tank. Any recommendations for where to find the most hoses? Especially as the 8v seems to have different ones I've only found a couple from different sites at the moment. Also appropriate to change the water pump at the same time, given it will be drained?
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There's also the power steering pump which I mentioned, it's low on fluid and it looks like there is a leak from the pump, but possibly also from the rack. The steering feels totally fine other than it takes a few turns for the fluid to moving so I'm not sure if I should get it refurbed straight away.
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Also finally a full engine bay shot since I hadn't shown it yet. I will also change the crankcase ventilation bits because they have made a little mess.
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I'd leave the water pump for now and the hoses unless some are cracked/leaking.


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