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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:20 pm 
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ok so im attempting to retro fit some ventilated seats... ive got to say im stuck..


im stumped with the floor pan wiring.... do i need to use the plugs from the vented seats?

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:29 pm 
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these are the plugs i need as they are the vented ones..

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these seem to be the additional wires i need to use???

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ive traced them back to here....

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but im not sure what to do from there..... this green plug seems to plug into the floor pan loom

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6 wires vented switch. 5 wires heated switch.

If the car is a scrapper makes it much easier as you need as much purple, blue/white and black wire.

Give a brief overview over in martyns thread which I'll move here in a sec.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:39 pm 
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MOVED FROM OTHER THREAD:

Vented seat wiring is a complete option on the loom.

Dash side of the loom you need the switches, plugs for the switches, the 6 wires down to the 80 pin plug. Purple wire up to fuse box. Black earth wire behind stereo and the blue and white switch lighting wire that goes up towards the hazard light switch.

There's 6 wires going from the 80 pin plug to the seats, 3 to each seat. Also need an extra earth on the seat plugs.

To make matters worse the wiring changed from 2002 to 2003 year cars.


EDIT. Twice shouldn't need programming as the memory function is controlled by the PSM under the drivers seat. Not sure if it works with the key system but this is the only reason anything will need programming. The fans are a complete standalone setup.

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unfortunatly the car is not a scrapper... i need to refit the standard electric seats...

so where do the 6 wires from the 80 pin plug go to?

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what about the seat plugs??

they dont seem to have the same colour wires in as the ones to the 80 pin plug?

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do i need to use this at all?

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do i need to change this at all?

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the 80 pin plug goes here do i need to bypass this now?

or do i transfer them into my 80 pin plug?

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It's not easy getting the wires out. You need a couple of small 1.5mm drill bits or something and need to bend the tags in the terminals in from the mating face side and give it a sharp pull using needle nose pliers on the terminal itself (NOT the wire) from the rear.

Just remove the lower sections by pressing down on the connector and prising the 6 tabs out slightly. Will pop out if done right. There is also a brownyish coloured locking comb in each connector that just slides out.

Vented seats are stand alone so just wiring is needed, no black boxes......


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:03 pm 
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thank you for your help in this , i will try and sort it tomorrow night!

do you know anything about fitting the folding mirrors?? ive got the switch and wiring from the switch..

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The switch wiring goes from fusebox to switch to a 8 pin connector by the ignition switch. It then goes to the door connectors, through the door loom and then into the mirrors via a connector there. If they're memory there's also the PMM box up behing the glove box which has a squillion wires going to the mirror through the door loom/connectors as well as a tap into the I-Bus of the car.
There's also the earth and blue/white switch illumination to worry about.

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i managed to get the ventilated switch loom out of the donar car this evening!! well the top half of it anyway...

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here are all the connectors in place and present! good result

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even the ones over to the fuse box, i would like to try and make this as oem as possible on the fit....

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i removed the wires from here

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and managed to remove them from the seat plugs too so i can just fit them to the other harness

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started to relay the wires back in original location on the donar car,,,

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bloody mess i dont know why i start these things sometimes...

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started to get dark so i thought id better tidy up a little the passenger side is coming along nicely nearly all good to go back in now...

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since my other brother wants to buy the car i thought id better clean the carpets and stuff for him while they were accessible........

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Nightmare job isn't it? Looks as though its coming along though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:09 am 
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go to be honest the night i started the thread i was ready to chuck the towel in as i just couldnt work it out, if it wasnt for you giving me a nudge here and there i probably wouldnt have done it! so yeah a kinda of nightmare job but.....once ive done it i would be confident in doing it again and it wouldnt take half as long!!! lol

ive stripped out loads of interiors in various cars etc etc i thought my self to be fairly competant, but this made me wobble a little bit but now i know where im going with it im quite happy.... the electric folding mirrors bit is still a bit daunting im sure il get there eventually!

thank you for all the help so far though!

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The biggest thing to remember is to do one little job at a time, which you seem to be doing. Break it all down to smaller chunks and it's a lot easier. Do the dash, do the floor, do the door. Looking at the pics one thing I would say is pull EVERYTHING out the car, you'll be surprised how much easier it is when you can just kneel down in there and lean back to see the bigger picture so to speak without fighting seats etc constantly falling on your head and hands.

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How exactly do these vented seats work?

If I was to fit them into a 9k I was thinking is it as simple as the "sucker" gets switched on when required? It then sucks out air below the seat and mixes it with the cold air coming from the vent below the seat?

I'm guessing there is a big fan under the 9-5 seat just below the foam? I bet attaching a similar sized fan under the seat and then retro fit it by tapping off 12V from the fuse box run a wire to the seat and make some bespoke switch in between either on the dash or on the seat just to engage power to the sucker?

The pin holes on top of the seat may aid ventilation a little bit (i'm not sure how effective it is as your bum is probably preventing airflow), but I bet making holes in the foam would still work.Surely this system on the 9-5 leaves the seat back still hot?


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There are 2 fans, one in the base and one in the back. As you say they suck the heat and moisture through the seat and blow it into the foot area of the car. The perforation are there to allow this to happen as air will pass through your clothing etc as well. Although never tried them myself everyone I know who has swears by them.

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i tried these on the way hom eafter i bought the car, they are pretty good!

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