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armstrongracer
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:34 pm 
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I have a 2008 9-3 TTID aero and the power steering has just gone awol. It came & went a few times over the last week or so & my guess is that it's electrical. Possibly a broken wire or water in the connector. Can anyone give me a quick pointer as to the location of the connectors that feed the steering pump. Cheers.
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Is the power steering electric?
I kinda assumed it was fluid based and run off the engine via a belt.

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From what I've read the diesel's are electro-hydraulic, ie; no belt.
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Well iam happy to learn that.

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definitely have an electric pump - still use fluid to do the work though, the fluid reservoir is located on the top of the rack (ie, behind the engine).

I'd guess the connection for the pump would therefore be in that general area - however given the current the pump draws (think it's got a 60 Amp "maxi" fuse), might be worth starting in the fuse box near the battery and work from there ...

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For some reason my owners manual doesnt identify the circuits protected by the maxi fuses. Anywhere I can get this info? Cheers.
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Check the electrical connector to the hydraulic pump motor. For some reason Saab positioned it right below a drain from the bulkhead, so it get covered in water every time it rains. Try spraying the pins with aerosol contact cleaner.

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Cheers, will do. Rain is something we have had quite a lot of lately. Can the connector be got at from the engine bay? It looks well hidden.
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Sorry, I don't know!! I haven't got a diesel. I've seen a picture though!

The workshop manual says to remove the undertray and access it from there.

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its the same as my sons 1.9 150

i make no exgeration about the fact
there is bundles and bundles of room down in that area
compared to my petrol it literally looks as if someone has removed the exhaust manifold turbo and downpipe

i would expect with even normal length arms its easy enough to reach

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Good to know. Can probably manage to get at it from above.
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Fluid Level is to the bottom of the tank, now that's a bit of a clue!!! Leaking rack seals or broken pipe? What's more likely for 2008, 80k miles? Park it in the same place every day and no drips, it's a dusty underground car park so it will show... Strange. Also I'll try topping up the fluid, I'm away from home so have no access to the owners handbook. Does anyone know what spec of fluid for a TTID with electro-hydraulic pump?
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WIS says to use P/N 93 160 548 - Pentosin CHF 202 ...

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Thanks, there's a Saab and also a Vauxhall dealer near me, suspect the latter will be cheaper for the same stuff. Will get some tomorrow.
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there is a procedure for filling - apparently it's self-bleeding, but I couldn't copy it across from WIS :-(

rough synopsis:

  • fill to max
  • Bleed power steering unit: start engine 3X, switch off after approx. 5 seconds - wait a short while before each restart
  • Bleed hydraulic system: start engine, turn wheel 5X from lock to lock, switch off engine
  • top up if needed

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Thanks for your answers folks, filled reservoir with correct fluid and used the recommended bleeding proceedure. All fine! 3 months later problem is back, so it must be a leak. No drips on ground where I park and its almost impossible to see anything due to congestion in engine bay. Does anyone know if there are known issues with late model 9-3 TTID steering pump and assembly such as failing hoses or rack seals? Car is 2008 Aero estate with 75K miles.
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access is good, just be careful, these things pull 70 amps!

Mines at 08 with 79,000m.

Intermittent whining/vibration/groaning when cold, other than that, it's fine

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Thanks,

Power steering works fine, it just loses a full tank of fluid in 3 months. Just looking for pointers as to what the likely cause is.
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might be coming ou the end on the rack into the bellows, and then squeezed out of bellows on full lock.

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Borrowing a topic to not start my own.
I noticed a small drip under my ttid this morning and checked the powerr steering and the bottom of the pump was greasy. Not much just a bit and dirty of course.
Plenty of room there to wipe it.
But there is more than enough fluid in the reservoir.
Any suggestions on the small leak?
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