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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:51 pm 
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I feel your pain..........my fuel needle starting jumping around as well...though this was only after bringing back alot of sand and cement in the back 2 weeks ago and then today when the front was up on ramps...so maybe the it's to do with it being heavily laden and not level....

Strangely, the temp needle is behaving.......

Anyhows, you are a brave man!

Keep us posted please...good luck!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:54 pm 
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mikseymono wrote:
I feel your pain..........my fuel needle starting jumping around as well...though this was only after bringing back alot of sand and cement in the back 2 weeks ago and then today when the front was up on ramps...so maybe the it's to do with it being heavily laden and not level....

Strangely, the temp needle is behaving.......

Anyhows, you are a brave man!

Keep us posted please...good luck!

M

Ha, thanks! I've ordered 3 of the motors, didn't want to have to pay postage again.

At least I haven't put my new centre vent back in yet


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:51 pm 
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Fail.

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The pins aren't quite in the same place, neither are the locating thingies. Well that was a waste of £45 :(

I've been trawling through google images and can't find the current ones at all anywhere.

Having taken the old motors out again, they don't seem to be broken like last time and still move, which makes me think it might not be the motors this time.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm 
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That is a shame.

Not sure where you are in the world but second hand ones on eBay or here https://www.bildelsbasen.se/en-se/pb/Se ... 0/12768229 look good. You will need a Tech2 to marry which can also transfer over your mileage as well.

TBH, I haven't found the motors at all....I am also mindful that on the back of mine they are not stamped with the same numbers. Strangely, all needles have been behaving well the last two weeks....the temp needle definetely has more resistance than the others when you spin the needle with finger and thumb but for the moment it works as it should! For the moment........... :D

Keep us posted on the next chapter...I am not too far behind you!

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:45 pm 
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mikseymono wrote:
That is a shame.

Not sure where you are in the world but second hand ones on eBay or here https://www.bildelsbasen.se/en-se/pb/Se ... 0/12768229 look good. You will need a Tech2 to marry which can also transfer over your mileage as well.

TBH, I haven't found the motors at all....I am also mindful that on the back of mine they are not stamped with the same numbers. Strangely, all needles have been behaving well the last two weeks....the temp needle definetely has more resistance than the others when you spin the needle with finger and thumb but for the moment it works as it should! For the moment........... :D

Keep us posted on the next chapter...I am not too far behind you!

M


Yeah, there are plenty of used ones on ebay, but my worry is that they will just do the same thing eventually. That's why I was looking for new motors

I've put it all back in and the fuel gauge works, but the temp one still seems to be dead. I'd better get an obd reader I guess.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:49 pm 
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True on the used ones........if you could plug in new stepper motors that would be easier...but no one seems to know what they are!
Why do you want an OBD reader? Do you have codes present?

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:52 pm 
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True on the used ones........if you could plug in new stepper motors that would be easier...but no one seems to know what they are!
Why do you want an OBD reader? Do you have codes present?

M

No, but I have seen people have some that tell you your coolant temperature seeing as the temp gauge is still dead.

I'll keep looking, someone has to know what they are!


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You could get Torque Pro app for about £3 (or basic Torque is free) if you have an Android phone, and a Bluetooth ELM327 from ebay, shows almost all operating parameters.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:14 am 
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TWSaab wrote:
You could get Torque Pro app for about £3 (or basic Torque is free) if you have an Android phone, and a Bluetooth ELM327 from ebay, shows almost all operating parameters.


This is what I used and it works very well.

I have been thinking more about this overnight. It strikes me that I have 5 needles that all move to some degree. The rev counter, speedo, turbo, fuel and temperature gauge. It is with the temperature gauge that is the problem one for me and it seems for others as well. Why is this and not the other needles? Is it because, once it has moved to temp it just sits there whilst the other needles are moving to some degree all the time? Unless the temp needle stepper motor is different........

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 12:07 pm 
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TWSaab wrote:
You could get Torque Pro app for about £3 (or basic Torque is free) if you have an Android phone, and a Bluetooth ELM327 from ebay, shows almost all operating parameters.


Thanks, I think I'll do that


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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 12:08 pm 
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mikseymono wrote:
TWSaab wrote:
You could get Torque Pro app for about £3 (or basic Torque is free) if you have an Android phone, and a Bluetooth ELM327 from ebay, shows almost all operating parameters.


This is what I used and it works very well.

I have been thinking more about this overnight. It strikes me that I have 5 needles that all move to some degree. The rev counter, speedo, turbo, fuel and temperature gauge. It is with the temperature gauge that is the problem one for me and it seems for others as well. Why is this and not the other needles? Is it because, once it has moved to temp it just sits there whilst the other needles are moving to some degree all the time? Unless the temp needle stepper motor is different........

M

Yeah, you've got a very good point. The motors look the same from what I can tell, maybe they burn out from having to hold in the same position for long periods of time.

The fuel gauge worked a few times and now points directly up :(


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