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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:38 am 
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So, I'm having a problem I cant figure out. My reverse gear lock is not working. It's an '83 900Gls.

When I stop, turn the key off, I can just pull it straight out, like a "normal' car. Its starting fine, the only other symptom is that the battery light and fasten seatbelt light are staying on even without a key in the ignition. The battery is new.

Could it be the ignition lock relay? When I remove this, the battery light and seatbelt light turn off.

Any help would be much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:39 pm 
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It sounds like your ignition switch isn't isolating correctly. If the ignition lock relay is remaining energised, it will be powered by the ignition switch. It may be worth taking out the centre console to get in with a multimeter and have a look at the ignition switch contacts.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:47 pm 
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Sounds like you are not turning it all the way anticlockwise, yet can remove the key anyway due to a worn key and/or barrel.
If I use the original key for my 90 then I can remove the key without locking the car in reverse but in that case I don't think anything is left powered on, although I might be mistaken. If I use a newly-cut key (factory-cut from the VIN rather than by copying the worn key) then the key cannot be removed without locking the car in reverse first.
Perhaps the lock barrel will not go the last bit anticlockwise for some reason.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:58 am 
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Ha!
I've just been out in my '93 T16 - have always routinely put it in reverse then taken the (original) key out - on the assumption that it's then locked.
Wrong assumption!
After reading your post, I've just discovered that with the key out, I can put it back into neutral - or indeed, take the key out while it's not in reverse.
Same with the spare (original) key.
Nothing stays on though, so I guess you've got two problems:
- worn key and/or worn/failed reverse gear lock AND
- something electrical around the switch or relay.
There used to be a repair kit available for the reverse gear lock issue, but I haven't looked in the last few years.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:28 pm 
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If you do need a new key, Billj at Saabits does them if you can get the code from the barrel. We snapped our key off in the ignition and the one cut by Timpsons from the spare wouldn't work - unsurprisingly as they were cutting from a worn key. The ones from Bill are much better, as you'd expect.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:39 pm 
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That sounds like a plan!
All I need to do now is get the lock number off the barrel - which presumably means taking out the console to expose it....
Not a job for today.....
(Just a thought - Bill, can you work off the original key number? Both are stamped "YM0 +2 numbers.." )

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