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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:28 pm 
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Hi all,

Long time since last posting. Just back from getting my car MOT'd and it's failed on the bulkhead being split "Offside Steering component mounting prescribed area fractured to the extent that control of the vehicle is likely to be adversely affected (2.1.2 (e) (ii))"

I was aware the 93 and especially convertibles were susceptible to this, but not the 900. I asked the tester if he could show me the area where the problem is, but wouldn't.

Going forward, is the advice the same as for the 93, repair and get a steering brace? Or is there anything else to be looking for.

All the best

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:41 pm 
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I don't see why he wouldn't show you? Was it an MOT place used to Saabs? My old 2001 5 door 9-3 failed on this at around 60k but I could hear creaking when turned the steering wheel but I never checked to see if the pedals moved. I got mine repaired at a Saab indy and got the PFS rack brace (which really helped with torque steer too).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:54 pm 
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The ng900 is worse for it than the 9-3. The repair is the same though.

A rack brace will help prevent it (horse and stable door springs to mind) and will help with the handling. Not easy to fin for the 900 now though, and 9-3 ones wont fit. I also seem to remember there are two sizes for the 900 as the changed the rack part way through the run.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:05 pm 
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https://www.abbottsaab.com/product/bulk ... 900-94-98/


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:25 pm 
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Dependent on where you are Suffolk Saab do a 9-3 repair, presumably the 900 would be basically the same.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-93-9-3- ... 1438.l2649

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:43 pm 
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Isn't the MOT station obliged to show exactly where any failure is if you ask?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:59 pm 
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Hi, thanks all for the replies.

Yes, I really don't understand why he wouldn't show me, started making excuses that had to get the next car on but would have taken all of a minute, pretty poor tbh as had finished the MOT almost 15 minutes early. Had a look last night and you can see the bulkhead moving down the bottom close to the chassis, and some movement of the pedals when at full lock. All of which is pretty alarming! I couldn't see any actual cracks and not higher up next to the suspension strut where most pictures on the internet show, but lot's of stuff in the way if it's moving then must be a problem somewhere.

I've been down and seen Saabmaster this morning, as I'm based in Torquay and he seems pretty confident that it's something he can fix.

I will be getting the clamp, always something I've seen and never thought necessary.

Will get the work done, despite it costing more than the car is ever worth, but I've had it since I was 17 (31 now) so be a shame to let it go over this.

All the best
Patrick


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:09 pm 
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I think the 'crack' is generally the inadequate spot welds coming undone with the flexing of the bulkhead.

Funny attitude down there, can't make them favourable for any work. I use Halfords for my MOT's and they are generally helpful and show you anything. On the 9-3 this morning he actually had it up and down on the lift with both of us poking etc to find where a clonk in the suspension was coming from. They even put a touch of weld on a bracket on the TR7 a couple of years ago without wanting payment. They can see I fix my own cars and don't push for work either.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:22 pm 
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Who did the MOT, Patrick? Just so I know to avoid them. Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:17 am 
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patrick54896 wrote:
Hi, thanks all for the replies.

Yes, I really don't understand why he wouldn't show me, started making excuses that had to get the next car on but would have taken all of a minute, pretty poor tbh as had finished the MOT almost 15 minutes early. Had a look last night and you can see the bulkhead moving down the bottom close to the chassis, and some movement of the pedals when at full lock. All of which is pretty alarming! I couldn't see any actual cracks and not higher up next to the suspension strut where most pictures on the internet show, but lot's of stuff in the way if it's moving then must be a problem somewhere.

I've been down and seen Saabmaster this morning, as I'm based in Torquay and he seems pretty confident that it's something he can fix.

I will be getting the clamp, always something I've seen and never thought necessary.

Will get the work done, despite it costing more than the car is ever worth, but I've had it since I was 17 (31 now) so be a shame to let it go over this.

All the best
Patrick


I thought all MOT's were timed through their computer systems now so they had to keep to a prescribed pattern and the option of finishing early was not, an option, now?

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