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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:22 pm 
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It shouldn't affect the display, but is your radio aerial connected? The saloon uses the heated rear window via an aerial amp behind the RH rear pillar and an earth filter behind the RH rear pillar. The estate uses the brown lines in the rear side windows. Always the RH one, sometimes the LH one as well, also via an aerial amp in the roof. The estate windows are connected by a kind of press stud. Mine fell off.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:50 am 
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Running the WIS is going to be a challenge for me, I have no Windooz licence and do not really want to invest in one, need to look further in to it. Will try to open it and set it up today using the Mac Application Wine (https://www.winehq.org). Will report if it works.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:44 pm 
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mm, sgould, I would like to not get Windooz licence. To costly. I need to ask around if anybody has an old laptop they donate with it on.

I tried running it with 'Wine' but that does hang on installation. must be components missing.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:48 am 
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ChangeAgent wrote:
Saab 9.5/2004 - Navigation/Radio system display screen confused and can not set it up.




OK I discovered more. Via the Saab Club NL I found the following info. It is, apparently, a known problem and seems to be a software fault.

If you disconnect the Battery it happens. You can no longer set the clock and there is a stripe through the GPS symbol. However the Navigation still works so there seems to be a GPS signal.

It is a software bug in all Denso units from 2005 till 2010. US Cadillac’s apparently have it too and apparently the Corvette C6 has it too. According to the poster is GM working on it.

If I find out more I post.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:12 pm 
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Thanks!! :)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:10 am 
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If anybody is interested, there is an other discusion going on here: https://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6372638&posted=1#post6372638

We are not alone, but if a solution is in the making...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:49 pm 
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I've been watching a thread on a Corvette forum about the missing clock on the Denso unit. Last week someone posted:

"A fix for the clock issue is in the works. Denso (maker of Nav) ...one of their engineers has made the fix and GM now has it. We are waiting for GM to release it. Supposedly it will be FREE. It will be available as a download. You can burn it to a disc and insert it into the Nav unit and should fix the clock problem. Hope GM releases it soon."


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:45 pm 
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keep us posted please!

is this GM USA or UK or Worldwide?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:49 pm 
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ChangeAgent wrote:
keep us posted please!

is this GM USA or UK or Worldwide?


No idea I’m afraid. Will post here as and when I hear anything.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:41 am 
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cool and thanks for the heads-up.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pm 
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The corvette guys have a fix. One of the denso employees has sorted it and they are just waiting for it to be rolled out. I have sent a message to denso on that forum to ask what hope there is for us Saab owners. Will update when I hear back.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:48 pm 
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Have just received a message from the Denso employee who has the fix for Corvette. Unfortunately there is no fix for Saab, but he says the clock will come back on its own on 16/08/2020.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:57 am 
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Welldon, thanks! well-done (pun intended). did they tell you as to why it should come back by itself on that date?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:16 pm 
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He didn’t say why, but I assume it’s to do with the GPS rollover bug that caused it in the first place. I just got another reply about a temporary fix but it involves using a GPS simulator that costs $5000! In the US, he is shipping this to corvette owners, but he can’t ship it here. He is now talking to the Saab quality manager about looking in to a fix for us.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:40 am 
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Thanks for the heads-up. we keep hoping as it is a bit annoying to have it not work.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:45 pm 
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Ryan from Denso’s response:
Why will the clock come back on 8/16? The brief explanation is there is a GPS time check that will not display the time if it thinks the time is invalid. That is why the time doesn’t appear after the GPS week rollover. The rollover is in April but we have an offset so the week counter rollover happens in Dec for this radio. There is a bug that will allow the time to be displayed again after 8/16/20.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:14 am 
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I see, sounds good that it will come back. Not that I understand the whole logic behind it, but all the same I do hope he is right.

In any case Welldon thank you very much for following up on this and we keep the fingers crossed it will indeed be this way.

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My clock came back yesterday afternoon (UK, Denso sat nav, 07 9-5 Aero).

But not the correct day/date.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:56 am 
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Good afternoon.

As I am also in other forums present and here seems to be a solution:

viewtopic. ... 0#p1862830

Please read the contribution of Welldon (No 31). There is hope. Since I live far away form a GM dealer (and not one of the friendliest in the world) I will wait till I am in the big smoke and see what they say. If anybody has any good results in the mean time it would be fun to hear.

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