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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:41 pm 
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Location: Falkirk/scotland
Car Model: 9-3 Vert, 252bhp
Is it possible to change the rose bushes without the proper tool? Thinking about getting a bit of threaded bar and a socket.

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Will the proper tool also fit a 9-3 2003 onwards. Only reason I don’t want to buy the tool is because I don’t plan on buying a 9-5, just doing the job for a mate

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:55 pm 
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boydy2013,

I've done the job on a 9-5 using the 'proper- tool and it was still a real pig. These bushes are a VERY tight fit and space is restricted. Even fitting the new ones required a lot of swearing so I would suggest that buying the tool at about £25 is the cheap option.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:17 pm 
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It's such a pig of a job I would go so far as to say pay someone else to do it!!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:02 am 
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McVities wrote:
It's such a pig of a job I would go so far as to say pay someone else to do it!!


As above - I took my arms off completely and still managed to snap the threaded rod but access was easier. Need to do mine again I think.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:01 am 
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The Saab indie I use bent his new tool doing mine they were so tight.

Pay someone else to do it!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:51 am 
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If you do go down the DIY route use lots of lube, LOTS of Lube!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:25 am 
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I borrowed the tool and so far have done 3no. I will get round to the 4th but right now ---just no way on earth! A right pig very tight and you will need a breaker bar and a deep socket.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:46 am 
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Done 2 sets so far with no real dramas using the tool. Maybe I've been lucky.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:06 pm 
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Mark E wrote:
Done 2 sets so far with no real dramas using the tool. Maybe I've been lucky.



Do we detect just a smidgin of smug Mark? :D

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:56 pm 
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No, just a bit of alternative experience for balance :)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:05 pm 
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So you guys would recommend buying the correct tool for the job :haynes:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:34 am 
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Opel-Vectra- ... SwU-pXq9ju

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:36 pm 
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Car Model: 9-5 9-3SSx2 Sonett T16S 9000
I am struggling to work out what is different between the link above and the one I found. Is it that yours has Saab on it and an £8 premium?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel- ... 0930.m5375

Have you used this company before? I did for my 2.2 timing tools. The quality was average and the pin to lock the fuel pump was no where near the right size. Luckily you can get away with a drill bit and tape.

For the bushes you need a decent tool. I bought a Laser and managed 11 bushes before it broke. They all seem to break at some point.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:56 pm 
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no never used them, i just posted that as an example, i know what you mean about the tools breaking, they sure ain't built to last

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:09 pm 
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The threaded bar does need to be hardened for them to work.

Also, don't use a windy gun on them. They don't like windy guns......


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 am 
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Although mine were done 3yrs back I've often wondered if I could just take the arms off drop them into a small local engineering firm and say, "put them in your press and press out the old and press in the new" 5min job surely with the right equipment.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:54 pm 
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It would be if they were in the arms. They're in the hub and the arms go over them. Take the hub off and press them out, or buy at £20 tool,


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 am 
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Sorry Sultan, but, on the 9-5 the 2 rose bush are on the end of the arm with the big poly bush the other end. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:52 am 
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Yes arms come off so you do it that way though you need to mark the arms in relational to where they bolt on and get your tracking on the rear done after. (probably font again also)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:27 am 
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i done my 2.2 about 6 months ago, lined up with the existing marks and yep, front tracking was out

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