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 Post subject: Saab' s trade in prices.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:19 pm 
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Yesterday my 2008 95 Aero passed the MOT with only a couple of advisories (back box on it's way out and one of the auto dim mirrors is badly discolouring). Anyway coming back from the garage and about 200 yards down the road there is a small Volvo dealership that sells used cars which is separate from their large main dealer.

I saw a lovely looking Volvo XC90 R Design (2013) with high mileage, so i stopped and had a look at it with the missus. Spacious and with loads of extras it looked immaculate with a full Volvo servicing log book. Spoke to the salesman about the price and he then asked me about my car.

Without even leaving his office he looked my car up in his 'valuation' book and i was gobsmacked when he offered me £1,000 and no more, saying that was generous. Didn't want to even look at my car even though it had just got another year's MOT an hour ago.

Is this really what Saab's are worth now, as i expected at least more than that?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:26 pm 
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This might partly explain his low trade-in offer.....

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:40 pm 
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Car Model: 9-3 OG 2.0t 2003
Take a look on Autotrader Valuation https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-valuation you will need to make an acc.

Taking a quick guess at what you have came out at 1.6k trade in and 2.6k private sale - but then used acr sales people are not exactly the best indication of price!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:54 pm 
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Ten year old Saabs are worth buttons as a trade in to a garage that knows nothing of them.

Best to sell privately. Manual or auto? Saloon or estate? Mileage? Colour? Interior colour??

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:29 pm 
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Typical used car dealer (or garage, or bodyshop) wrote:
<sucks through the teeth> Saab have gone bust, mate! Can't get parts for 'em now...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:45 am 
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Cat amongst the pigeons time.

*The majority of SAAB owners expect to buy at rock bottom prices, but then expect to get top money when selling.

If modified you will not get the full value of the mods back when selling, in fact many will not buy modified cars as there is still the perception that modified means ''ragged to death''.

Market value is just that, its what the general public and trade are willing to pay.
You may get more from enthusiasts for a top line car, but the above* still applies.


If your looking to sell list it in the classifieds for what you think its worth and go from there.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:22 am 
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As above - on a modified car, often you’ll get more if you strip the go-faster bits off, return it to stock and sell the upgrades separately. That of course depends on if you still have the standard parts to swap back ...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:37 pm 
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I think what i will do is find and buy a car without doing a trade in on the Saab and then sell it privately. Looked at the XC90 again and it is a huge car, probably bigger than i need, so i am looking at it's smaller brother, the XC60.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:50 pm 
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I managed £2700 for mine versus a 2011 9-5 at a Vauxhall dealer. They said it would be going straight to auction and judging by the price the next garage was selling it at, my buyer got nowhere near £2700.

I don't even think the car ever moved on, no MOT or Tax since sept 2017... apart from a scuffed rear bumper it was in good nick. It had a recent MOT, service, new DI pack and PAS pump (so I spent £800 on keeping Edna on the road in 2016 alone before servicing etc)...

Guess ther market for a large exec petrol car with £500 VED is non-existent, so either she is parked up somewhere or parted out.

I'd see how long the XC90 sits on the forecourt for, 2013 sounds new but very 5 years old...try in 2 weeks to see if he changes his tune....


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm 
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Fliptop wrote:
Ten year old Saabs are worth buttons as a trade in to a garage that knows nothing of them.

Best to sell privately. Manual or auto? Saloon or estate? Mileage? Colour? Interior colour??


Im with you Buttons Saabs are worthless and pointless so who would buy them ! ?

There are people like us that love them but I am looking for an early 9-5 at the moment but why would I pay good money for it when I know there are so few of us looking for one


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:39 pm 
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Should have sold my 9-5 privately really, managed to get £700 for it PX 06 tid vector sprt wagon with 122k on the clock FSH and 4 almost new cross climates on it which wouldn't fit my new 9-3 aero ttid sadly, got offered as little as £400 at one place and £1k at another but that was against a laguna coupe so doesn't really count, shame really as the equivalent beemer or audi / merc would be a lot more for an inferior car IMO

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:00 pm 
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Car Model: '03 9-5 Aero Estate
We might as well face it guys.. our cars are worthless... uneducated people make fun of them and we'll never sell them because SAAB have gone bust and you can't get bits for them.. (As silly as this statement sounds, its what a lot of people believe)

I paid a grand for my 9-5 aero a couple of months ago, which was probably still a bit over it's actual value as it's a bit leggy but has masses of SH to back it up, which is what I was after.

Do I ever look back?... Sure, but only at the fancy, financed car I've just smoked away from the lights!

SAAB's rock bottom prices are one of the main reasons most of us were attracted to them in the first place aren't they?

At least their values can only go up!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:45 pm 
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Car Model: 93 convertible aero v6, bmw z3
ms1000 wrote:
Should have sold my 9-5 privately really, managed to get £700 for it PX 06 tid vector sprt wagon with 122k on the clock FSH and 4 almost new cross climates on it which wouldn't fit my new 9-3 aero ttid sadly, got offered as little as £400 at one place and £1k at another but that was against a laguna coupe so doesn't really count, shame really as the equivalent beemer or audi / merc would be a lot more for an inferior car IMO

Whilst I agree that the equivalent German car would cost much more, I would argue they do so because they are better as a whole, if not as endearing in parts? I much prefer Volvo and Saab to almost every one of the comparable BMW or Mercedes I have owned, older models mind, but am under no illusion ze Germans had the Swedes trumped in many departments. Again, only my opinion, and yes until recently mercs rusted, BMW and Audi too...but the bank vault build quality of an e39 or e38 BMW, an old Audi a8 or the impregnable w123/124/126 is the stuff on which legends are built.

A more apt comparison? I loved my 07 93 vert v6, glorious, characterful, quick. And it cost a fraction of the cost of a hot 3 series drop top..but the 3 series for me is the better drive, better chassis, more driver focussed...yet I could never love one.. Jeez, am confusing myself now. Am off for a lie down....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:50 pm 
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Many Saab's are now over the hill when it comes to there real value, 10 year old 120,000 miles cars with a poor history and too many owners attract very little interest, they can only be sold on price. However low mileage proper cars with 70,000 miles or less are still sought after by specialist Saab dealers and there is very strong competition out there for such cars amongst the specialist motor trade. The thing is that most owners of poor service history, multiple keeper vehicles with a high mileage do not recognise that is the vehicle they are trying to market. Saab owners also have to contend with lazy sales managers who cannot be bothered to do more than value the car using CAP or Glasses from their desk, so when they do get offered a nice genuine car in part exchange the fact that is a nice genuine car completely escapes them, if they do get a deal based on the vehicles Trade valuation and send the car to Auction to dispose of it, they are often very surprised by the result they achieve often doubling or trebling there initial valuation as the specialist Saab dealers and the odd private buyer becomes involved in the bidding, I repeat this only applies to nice low mileage, low ownership well serviced examples, not any old poo. As for parts, there are still very few problems in obtaining parts, yes there are a few where Aurio (Saab Parts that was) have run out of a particular part and are not prepared to pay the cost of a limited production run by one of the parts manufacturers, such parts tend to be on "back order" though often given time they will appear as the number of orders makes there production worth while. Considering that Saab have been out of production for the thick end of 7 years the parts situation is very good, what is not good is that as all cars get older they get rougher and less reliable, people need to appreciate that affects there value, hence the demand for the very good ones!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:14 pm 
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Car Model: 9-3 1.9tiD Vector S Anniversry
I paid £2k for my 9-3 anniversary. 94k on the clock came with some history and after tracing the previous owner I managed a bit more. Price included belt and water pump change.
I think it's a cracking car and still get a buzz a year later.
chubby good value! Biggest majority of my friends like it and don't try to slate the car....teapots is on the horizon if I can pull my finger out


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:29 pm 
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Long maintained older Saab are where the bargains are. Great when you are buying, less than ideal when selling

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:54 pm 
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gbn wrote:
Long maintained older Saab are where the bargains are. Great when you are buying, less than ideal when selling

I agree with that. It's probably one of the best condition cars I've owned too...and certainly got more toys.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:05 am 
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gbn wrote:
Long maintained older Saab are where the bargains are. Great when you are buying, less than ideal when selling


Which is what I like, cheap motoring :D

Selling on and getting back what they owe you or close to it is usually not a problem, however for those looking to make a profit they are usually not so good.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:05 pm 
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Car Model: 9-5 Aero HOT Edition 2008
Well, i have just been to see a lovely XC60 with all the bells and whistles. What makes it even better is that Volvo Polestar have upgraded the vehicle to 255bhp with better suspension to. Drives beautiful and it is very comfortable. What did i get for mine as a trade in- £1,500 which i was happy with. Pick it up next Tuesday.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:55 pm 
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Lovely car, well bought

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