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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:02 pm 
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The original Reliant brake drums were badly rusted and beyond the hope of skimming the friction surfaces. Of course suitable replacements are no longer available, but a possible option are mk3 Mini units. These are cheap at £11 each, but require machining out the spigot facing to mount onto the stub axles. This was done by a local engineering firm.
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Unfortunately these drums are also too deep for the stub axles, meaning they foul on the backing plates. I could either spend the same money again having the rear faces machined to clear, or fabricate spacers to sit behind the drum faces and allow the drums to clear the backing plates. Chose to make up the spacers instead from 5mm steel discs.
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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:09 pm 
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You certainly have an extremely eclectic collection of cars.

Keep the story coming.

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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the sig list is not all of it!!

there is a couple of bikes as well, a deloren (wickedly cool) a austin truck (cool as well)

and donna has a zoo basically of animals.

at some point i expect a entrance fee to come in to their lovely home

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:49 am 
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Thanks gents. At last count the vehicle list was as follows...

Saab 95 V4 van
Saab Sonett 3
Saab 95 V4
Saab 99
Saab 900
Saab 9000
Saab OG93 X2
Vauxhall Chevette
Austin Allegro estate
Bond Bug
DeLorean
Reliant Fox
Austin K2 lorry
Honda CB100N
Honda CB125TDE
Honda CB250NDB

As for the animals, there are a few of them too...

17 chickens
4 gerbils
2 toads
1 parakeet
Several hundred mealworms

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:08 pm 
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Nice work sir, seriously impressed by the skills on show here.

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Excellent restoration thread 8)

A local gardener used to run one of these when I lived in Falmouth :D

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Now the weather has improved, and we are all in lockdown anyway, I'm finally having a go at painting. Tried doing some of the panels earlier in the year, but it was too cold for the thinners to evaporate quickly enough, and the colour coat ended up reacting horribly with the primer and bubbling everywhere. Cue much messy stripping back of fresh paint. So thought it best to wait until the sun was a bit higher in the sky. Been stripping the body back to the gelcoat using a DA sander and 120 grit discs, a long and very tedious job. I can see why body shop people earn their money. Still a few bits to do including the load bed, but it's getting there.

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After 10 hours and umpteen sanding discs.

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Oh I thought you where going for the camoflage look there Dave..

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:21 pm 
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Oh I thought you where going for the camoflage look there Dave..

Ha, I was spraying some of the panels yesterday, and a combination of the overspray, and the sanding dust, means I blend in nicely with the colour of the Fox...

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Just caught up on your thread, Dave. Much more detail than on FB - hadn't fully appreciated what your starting point was. Lovely work - pity it might be next year before you get chance to show.


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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:14 pm 
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Some progress on the Fox. Previously I'd had a go at brush painting some of the panels, as I didn't have the apparatus for spraying properly. The finish was appalling, so they were stripped back and started again. Tried roller painting them, as per the advice on many boating forums, for finishing fibreglass to an acceptable standard. Again, the results were dreadful, and I would have been unhappy every time I looked at the car. It might be okay for a boat, but looks terrible on car panels. Nope. So bit the bullet, bought a spray gun, and all the paraphernalia that goes along with it. Panel wipe, cloths, gun wash, tack rags, a million sanding discs of multiple grades, thinners variously, nitrile gloves....

So, my first attempt was in the open garage with colour coat over already primed and sanded panels. Like an idiot, I did it in t-shirt and shorts, with face mask and goggles. Big mistake. After the spraying was done, I was redder than the panels, and the whole garage was covered in a fine mist of spray dust. What a halfwit. Also, I'd used the wrong thinners - I didn't understand the difference between fast and slow thinners, I thought thinners was thinners... so the panels all reacted and curled up like a week old lettuce. Also, my face mask was of the particle type, rather than vapour cartridges, so I almost expired from the fumes. It's not two pack paint, but still airborne thinners are nasty. So, looking like a partially cooked lobster, choked half to death, and with a ruined garage, I decided it might be best to do the job properly or not at all.

Decided to build a spray booth in the garage. Thankfully we had a couple of large rolls of industrial grade clear plastic in the shed - I'd bought it to build a polytunnel years ago, but ended up using proper Perspex panels designed for the job instead. The problem was timber - it was the start of the lockdown period, and every timber merchant was closed down, including all the DIY stores. Demolished a vegetable bed growing frame for the long sections, and managed to cadge enough bits from elsewhere in the garden to construct a frame. Largest I could fit into the garage was 4.2m x 2.4m x 2.4m, and managed to make longer lengths of timbers by extending them as required. Covered the frame with the plastic, installed a fan at the front end, and an opening door bit at the other end mounted on magnets to retain it closed. Retrieved a small fan heater from the garden shed to provide a bit of warmth to help the thinners flash off more quickly, and the fan to hopefully pull spray dust away from the panels.

Another thing I needed urgently - proper filters for my face mask. We have JSP face masks for DIY projects, but the particle filters are obviously useless for painting. The best ones are the ABEK1 P3 type, that do all vapours and particulates. Unfortunately given the present situation, nobody would sell any to me, and the only company I did find offered delivery dates after purchase of mid July...! Eventually managed to find a guy way up north of Scotland who had some unopened items for sale, but slightly past their expiry date - I took the view that expired filters are better than the wrong filters, so bought two sets of the ABEK1 filters. Another learning point was to ensure all bare skin was covered, including head and hands, because the paint gets EVERYWHERE. So, old work wet weather jacket was repurposed as a spray coat.

So, first colour coat down...

Really pleased with the result, it seems quite good straight out of the gun. Colour with 25% slow thinners seems to give a nice balance between coverage and flashing off quickly enough to prevent paint wrinkling. The tailgate panel closest to the camera is only the dust coat, so there's no depth of shine to it at all.

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The doors have had their first full coat, leaving them to harden off before cutting them back for another coat.

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Bonnet has had it's second full coat. As always a camera doesn't really show the flaws in the finish. These were painted after I forgot to wet down the floor of the garage, and so lots of dust settled in the five minutes between tack ragging the panels, and spraying the paint. Most frustrating. The paint is slightly orange peeley, but I think this will all cut back with wet sanding and cutting compounds.

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Lots of work still to do, including the main shell, but I've learned a lot in a short time...

Wear the appropriate PPE.
Prepare the panels thoroughly - paint doesn't hide faults, it makes them more obvious.
Learn the difference between fast and slow thinners!
Air flow and temperature are important for a good finish.
Don't forget to damp down the floor.

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Nice work - will be showroom fresh in a couple of weeks 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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So ... that's your Fox alongside Stig's 96 at Glamis next year ??
Keep up the good work !

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Unlike Doive, I have no plans to extend my garage into my living room. :shock:

Looking good.
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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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Stig wrote:
Unlike Doive, I have no plans to extend my garage into my living room. :shock:

Looking good.
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PMSL....

Well that's the paint booth sorted for my 96 in couple months...
Thanks Dave
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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:42 am 
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Stig wrote:
Unlike Doive, I have no plans to extend my garage into my living room.

Great for getting the paint hardened off with a bit of heat. Besides, it's Donna's project so she can hardly complain :mrgreen:


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Well that's the paint booth sorted for my 96 in couple months...
Thanks Dave

No bother mate, I can't give any guarantees on the quality of the finish or the uniformity of the paint... :geek:

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 Post subject: Re: Reliant Fox A80CJR
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For those interested in the booth, it's a snug fit in the garage!

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Looks good enough Dave..

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Just noted one of these coming up for auction.

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic ... x-pick-up/

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Just noted one of these coming up for auction.

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic ... x-pick-up/

Excellent, I recognise that car from various classic car shows, well known in Reliant circles. Although I'd be amazed if it makes that estimate - one recently sold, that had been one owner from new, then lived in a museum for nigh on 20 years, then fully recommissioned for sale. It was immaculate inside and out, and yet only made £1,800.

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