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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:38 pm 
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I hadn't seen this stamp in the top of the passenger wing before
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This car is proving itself to be the most rotten thing I've ever owned, or at least the most rotten thing I've tried to sort. I don't like it any less though!!

when I picked the car up I spotted this and I suppose it was the first indication of how rotten the car was. Being that it is welded to the cross member the engine sits on I thought I'd better fix it
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cutting it out revealed the crossmember was softish in the middle
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so this came out too

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inner piece sorted
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The beginnings of the outer panel being tried up

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welded in, ground, primed, will get bare metalled again and treated with PhosKleen before epoxy primer then filling.


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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:24 pm 
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I finally saved the photos from the original auction, was it anyone here bidding against me?
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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:44 am 
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I finally saved the photos from the original auction, was it anyone here bidding against me?
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Haha NO nobody on here was bidding Ian, we all knew it was a rot box..

Only yourself and the seller was bidding :lol: :lol:

Hope you left bad feedback :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:56 am 
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I finally saved the photos from the original auction, was it anyone here bidding against me?
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Haha NO nobody on here was bidding Ian, we all knew it was a rot box..

Only yourself and the seller was bidding :lol: :lol:

Hope you left bad feedback :shock:


Haha!!! I had thought if the seller was pushing it he mightn't have challenged me all the way to £800!

No bad feedback though, I've bought enough to know when the seller knows they're taking the pee, and this lot were genuine and interested in seeing the car repaired.
Still wish I hadn't ever seen it though! :park:

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:42 am 
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No bids from me either.

Its good that its going to live on and all credit for doing the work Ian.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:09 am 
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No bids from me either.

Its good that its going to live on and all credit for doing the work Ian.


Thanks Mal, I knew if I didn’t blitz it when it arrived I’d never do it!
I still think I should’ve bought your 4dr and used it as a replacement! Is the new owner on here?

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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I do not think the new owner is on here, but he has said he will probably turnup at one of the Redbeck meets.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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I do not think the new owner is on here, but he has said he will probably turnup at one of the Redbeck meets.


For info he has been spotted in Huddersfield and spoken to by a Redbeck/Limes regular, the 99 is in daily use.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:38 pm 
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It was an interesting car Mal, I hope he is enjoying it!

The front of the passenger inner and outer tubs were rotten but the wing, and the strong triangular panel that makes up the 3rd layer in the tub seam were good. I'd left the welds on the tunnel repair incase the small section I'd left in between was soft, in the end it turned out to be solid and got to stay!

trying new part up for size

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ready to go in
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welded in and outer tub repaired

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roughly ground back, ready for flap wheeling, will address lower edge profile at that point, about 2mm extra left on
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The last welds to do on the front of the car involved fixing and fitting the battery tray. I had held off because if I'd T16'd the car I'd have ended up with the battery in the boot anyhow..I've decided to go standard.

Rust confined to two corners and the upright part that welds to the belly pan

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Mid way through making the lower part of the upright part and checking it for shape

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it started out like this in the vice, using the bit of angle to beat the step into it

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and welded on
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And looking back at this to see how bad it was....
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I'm delighted to say that the metalwork on the front of the car is done.
Some bits need a dust with a flap wheel but they will get this in the prep stage.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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My second, and last update for the day...
I remember when Dad restored his 900 he said if he'd realised the back was as bad he may not have bothered sorting the front...
So...I made sure I started on the front and ignored the back! Til today at least
this
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required this

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became this after the wire wheel hit it

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took off the outer arch and found this!
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I'm probably going to have a large single malt tonight and forget about it!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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Great job Ian.. keep it up..
Enjoy your wee malt..

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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Excellent work so far Ian, well done. :P

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:11 pm 
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Cheers folks, I did have a large malt but not too large as I'd the day off today!

With the rear arch being as bad as it is the decision was made to remove the tank, exhaust, and the rear axle. It had also occurred to me that it would be awkward if I'd the body finished and nothing to bolt on to it, so whilst removing I dismantled to see whats good and whats not!

Found it had a stainless exhaust, it appears aftermarket but I'm happy with it, and 3 of the 4 front arms will clean up enough to use again, I've a new old stock one for the driver side top, at a push the passenger side top would be better replaced if I can get one, it has the most pitting.

Dropping the rear beam off I found both calipers are good, both (original!!) brake pipes are useable, but both trailing arms are rotten, I have a new one but have never seen them for sale so that is on the shopping list too.
Both backing plates are perfect!!
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And I thought I better order paint too..
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I know I'm a long way off but hope is important, and buying paint gives me hope it'll all be blue soon!!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:20 pm 
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Cracking work Ian,I think rear arch/door entry section are one of the most difficult repairs. They are also in your face if not quite right. I will be an interested spectator :D


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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:22 pm 
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Cracking work Ian,I think rear arch/door entry section are one of the most difficult repairs. They are also in your face if not quite right. I will be an interested spectator :D


I’m hoping I get it right then! It would be easy to sort the outer arch in and looking tidy but it’s the hours of sorting the wheel tubs that will make or break it.. eek

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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Top work as always Ian.

Moving this thread to Restorations & Major Projects, which is a more appropriate place for it :D

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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"I had held off because if I'd T16'd the car I'd have ended up with the battery in the boot anyhow...I've decided to go standard."

Really pleased to have read this Ian.

Front end looks fantastic and super solid now. You've got through it all soooooo quickly as well. 8)
I'm sure you'll plough through the rear of the body now and make it look super easy to many of us :envy:

Keep up the fantastic work. :corn:

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:07 pm 
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Haha Mal I suppose it's time for me to come out of denial and admit it is a project!! Fair play!! and thanks for the kind words!

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"I had held off because if I'd T16'd the car I'd have ended up with the battery in the boot anyhow...I've decided to go standard."

Really pleased to have read this Ian.



Thanks again Will, you're always encouraging and I appreciate that!

When I originally bought the car I'd had the thought in my mind 'if it's solid I'll keep it standard, if its really rotten I'll weld it up and make it fast, it not being such a shame as the car was probably lucky to get saved at all'
however I've went to a lot of trouble to keep as much of the early features as possible that I just don't have the heart to cut the bulkhead for the water pump on the later engine.

Roll on that 1854 purring and blowing it's head gasket in the least convenient place possible!!

tonight achieved little more than giving it a dust with the wire wheel again

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As you can see I've enough to keep me busy for a few evenings in this corner, taking the outer arch off has really shown the extent of the decay! Oh, and we're not talking about the door bottoms, not this year at least!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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Keep you busy for a few evenings :shock:
Heaven knows how long that lot would take me to sort :envy:

As for the 1854cc engine, they can be a really sweet and very smooth engine. Plus, there's so much knowledge these days for improving the reliability of that design to prevent gasket failure. Yes it would be a great car with a nice 16 valver in it, especially a turbo'd version, but as you have said, you've retained as much of the original car as you can, so keeping it with an 1854 in it would be really good. Plus, being an early 4door, it's one model that's only going to get rarer as time goes on. Good on you for keeping it as it was/more or less as it was.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:02 pm 
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Will, that's encouraging, do you think it will have enough oomph to keep up with modern traffic?

it's taking me more than a few evenings, I imagine it will probably use my whole weekend now doing the rest of this arch, after poking I'm realising it was even worse still than it looked!

I wasn't sure where to start on this one but as I'm working at ground level it seems logical to work from the inside out, so inner tub repair first!
This is what we were left with
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If this was being built as a show car this repair would seem rough but I'm happy with it for something I'm only going to underseal and drive everywhere come rain or shine. Strength and durability over perfection.
where the floor forms the bottom part of the sill, there was an area about 120mm x 50mm that was soft, so this had to come out

Using whats left of the car to check the shape of the repair panel
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This was then trimmed and butt welded in, then I started on repairing the sill panel and the front of the inner tub.

This is as far as 3 evenings has taken me but it is a really fiddly repair, and there's a lot of strength in this corner

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As with everything else the welds on this need final finishing but after I've welded I always do a rough grind, just to check there's no pinholes whilst the welder is still going!

Outer tub next, lots of it missing or soft!

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