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 Post subject: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:28 am 
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This one appeared on ebay the other day and after much deliberating then the internet connection going down I managed to get mobile signal and bid at the last minute, I was pretty sure it wasn't enough to get it but as luck would have it my max bid was a few hundred above what it actually sold for.
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The car was located in Bradford which is a good 8 hour drive each way with the trailer on and it had been sitting since 2015, so I was a bit worried with my trailer having no winch. Luckily with the tyres pumped it rolled and loaded with no issue.

I have to say now that I've bought lots of cars from strangers on Ebay over the years but never have I met hospitality like I did in Yorkshire, this is the first time anyone has ever put me on my way with a home cooked packed lunch! Thanks again if you're reading!

Totally uneventful trip home
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But I did need to drop into 4th a few times

When I got home google brought up this, which appears to show it reasonably recently in much better shape!
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If anyone knows anything about it I'd be interested to know!
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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:12 am 
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Registered may 1972, I suppose that makes it a reasonably rare survivor its interesting some of the details it has, like drivers head rest but no passenger, the passenger seat even has blanks where it could've been..
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Being a 70's 99 it had to be rusty, the photos made it look ok and although very crusty seemingly quite solid, most of the rot seems to be at the front drivers side. well 8 hours being rattled on a trailer has rattled out a huge amount of rust, I'm genuinely surprised it is fit to hold it's own weight

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reshelling it isn't an option as I feel there's too many of these early cars lost the early details, however as the tunnel repair piece and a wing repair won't be enough I don't suppose anyone has a shell in better nick that they's consider cutting the front driver's corner off of to yield the panels I need?

Still chuffed, expected it to be moderately rotten all over instead of really rotten in one corner!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:12 pm 
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Get your money back Ian :lol:
Keep you busy for a while..

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:08 pm 
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Get your money back Ian :lol:
Keep you busy for a while..


Aye I'll need to buy a good sweeping brush!

what amazes me is this car was still MOT'd 3 years ago!
I wonder if anyone else bidding on it had actually been to see it?

I jokingly said the other day that this car is barely capable of holding it's own weight up, turns out the joke was on me!

Really not fussed though, it's not worth a lot but I really really like the look of this car so it's definitely worth saving, to me anyway..ImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on FlickrImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on Flickr

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:18 pm 
Good effort man, keep the faith


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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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Good effort man, keep the faith
Thanks!!

more fun today, amazingly every single nut, bolt, fastener has undone with no hassle!

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It's quite rotten!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:29 pm 
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After having a bit of a poke around and the other Ian Law looking at it it's been decided that it needs more than just a patch here and there, and ultimately to save this car it's an awful lot of fabrication, or see if a complete shell can be had to dissect and use the various complete panels in the engine bay....
I know a reshell into a solid shell sounds like the best thing but it's survived 46 years, I'm not throwing it away!
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Again, I'm amazed this thing was still road legal in 2015!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:47 pm 
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Lots to keep you busy there Ian.

Loving the size of the workshop though :envy:

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:47 pm 
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Well done Ian, so pleased to see this bought by an enthusiast and not a specialist purely to break it and make money from it.
A fairly early car being a 71 and seeing a 4 door saved pleases me too. I don't think all that many people really like the 4 door 99s. I never used to.
Many of the early 99s seem to last quite well. I have a 1970 which was laid up outdoors for a few years before I bought it and has been in my lock up ever since. There is surface rust on it, but the shell is remarkably solid with only minor deeper corrosion.
I really hope you can find the panels that you need to repair this and return it to use.
Those Ricardo/Triumph engines are often a real sweet smooth lump. Good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:06 pm 
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excellent! Very jealous of you having the space, patience and skills to do this overhaul. Look forward to seeing you resurrect this beauty.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:43 pm 
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Cheers folks, I do have the space but unsure about the skills! My dad is pretty good at the metalwork side of things and never too busy to advise so that is very helpful.

Madwelshman, a 4 dr 99 is a thing I've especially fond memories of, my Grandfather had a sepia brown (I think) GLE when I was little, it was quite an old car then but I've always missed the clunk of the 4dr doors!

Work continues but I haven't cut a thing yet, still haven't decided which angle to approach it from, ie, use the tunnel repair panels and make the lower inner wing good, then take out the crossmember and repair the lower inner towers and patch where necessary, OR take towers, crossmember and belly pan out and replace with better from a better shell.

In the meantime I'm scraping off underseal, and sometimes metal!

Drivers side is worst!
ImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on Flickr

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The passenger side isn't much worse than some of the cars on the road but still grim!

And I'm sure we've all a fair idea of what's hiding here!
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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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And tonight we are just having a little pretend :D
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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:20 pm 
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And tonight we are just having a little pretend :D
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If that's not inspiration to get it back on the road, I don't know what is Ian. lol
Something about 99's isn't there. I love them. There is something very appealing about the 4 door versions. All four of mine are 2 door and the ones I've had in the past have been as well.

Sepia Brown GLE eh, wow.
My mate Olly Cox is after one of those.

Keep that enthusiasm up Ian, you'll get there.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:58 pm 
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Will, tell Olly Cox that i got a lead on what sounds very much like a GLE in Aberdeen the other day, I haven't been there yet to see if that's what it is or if it's still there. Maybe someone on here knows?
I'd like to see your collection though?
I'm really enjoying this car, even if all I'm doing so far is prep work!

Scraping the flaky underseal with a blunt chisel is surprisingly satisfying, this evening finished the worst arch to a point where repairs can begin and started the second worst arch, revealing nothing I hadn't expected!
Though I've no plan to paint the outside of the car I will be doing all the repairs to the best of my ability, whilst retaining as much of 1972 Trollhattan as possible!

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:24 pm 
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Nice one Ian, I've mentioned it to Olly. I dare say he might message you.

I know there's a bit of work there, but it's all at the bottom of the arches isn't it.
Really pleased to see it being saved though and not just broken/scrapped.

Regarding my 99's, I'll have to post some pics sometime.

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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That blue ages well somehow and looks great when it’s faded. Keep up the good work,my 99 itch is getting worse. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:36 pm 
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That blue ages well somehow and looks great when it’s faded. Keep up the good work,my 99 itch is getting worse. :roll:


I like it faded and I think as a rolling project I will wax it this year after the repairs are done, whether once the door and wing repairs are done i keep it faded remains to be seen!

Apologies for the constant updates but photos are good for reminding yourself that there's progress, even if it is just prep just now.

Passenger side stripped, cleaned with Kerosene and ready for repairs.
Much much better than driver's side but still needs surgery. Rear suspension to come off and both rear arches to prep before the grinder comes out :D

I always assumed they should rot worse at the passenger side with road grit/salt etc but it always seems to be drivers side?

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
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Don't apologise for all the pictures Ian.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's enjoying your updates and progress reports :corn:

Regarding a respray, I'd just get it on the road and enjoy it for a while first. As long as underneath is solid enough and going to last, then the topsides can wait for their turn for some attention, if you decide to of course. That's what I'm doing with my EMS. It looks a shed, but it's being used and I'm slowly working (or trying to) through it's faults. The topsides and respray can wait.

Keep up the good work 8)

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^^What he said :D

The more pictures the better 8)

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 Post subject: Re: DKM669K 4dr 99
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:51 pm 
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Keep it coming Ian.
I am following this with interest :geek:

I'll be up to see it as soon as possible.
ps . . . .I had my 99 out today. Great fun, love it :wink:

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