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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:54 am 
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Ok so not quite sure what I've got into here........I bought a "rolled" Saab TX from an auction, obviously the insurance company deemed it as a total loss, I'm being optimistic and hoping to get it road legal again :roll:

The car rolled down a bank into a river bed, 40ft , no airbags went off, it ended up on its wheels, damage to every panel, front rear and sunroof windows smashed. It was then stored outside so when I collected it had 6 inches of rain water in footwells. I've now dried it all out, and found it drives fine, was in great condition before the accident, with 95,000km.

My friendly local panel beater says it'll not be economic to fix, partly because as it's been de-registered there is a complex process in order to repair it.

So my present plan is to buy a basic 9-3 2008 model, then move all Turbo X parts across. Looks to me to be feasible, but I'm relying on a basic models shell being able to accept all the complex components......the XWD system, having studied the underside of my TX, looks like they ran the prop-shaft down the floor tunnel and moved the exhaust to one side. Would Saab have had a "special" floorpan for the X, or can I assume they will all be the same? Any other issues you guys could worn me of, before I get stuck into it......


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:12 pm 
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Like many of us I've seen the pics of your car - not pretty! A bold project to take on, that's for sure. You'll have to do the measuring yourself but from what I understand there was quite a lot of modification to the FWD floorpan for the XWD running gear. Certainly in the standard FWD tunnel there is barely room for the exhaust, let alone a propshaft too!

I think you're in for a long slog, I suspect you need to look at floorpan, wiring loom (including the fibre optic malarkey that the 9-3ss/sw uses), fuel tank, rear suspension links and possibly more.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 am 
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Thanks Fliptop, I'm away for a week, when I get back I'll post some photos of the prop shaft area.....


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:24 am 
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From memory the changes are in rear wiring loom and rear electrical centre, rear subframe and suspension, exhaust.

If you are swapping from a 2.8l into another 2.8l that will be a lot easier as you arent changing anything major in the engine bay. "Just" adding the transfer box and different drive shafts. But using a 2.8l base limits you to aero models, rather than the base you were proposing.

If you use a 2.0 then you also need to swap the engine loom, engine, gearbox, and most of the trim in the engine bay.

I dont think the floor pan is too different. The TX exhaust has no silencers until the back boxes, which makes the space for the propshaft. My reasoning for this is that the interior is no different, and that wouldnt be the case if they had to put in a larger tunnel.

Best thing to do would be to get a copy of the electronic parts catalogue and run through each section noting parts which have XWD varients. That will give you an idea of the scale of the changes.


Hears a challenge for you though: what about an XWD vert? :corn:

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 9:28 am 
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Hmmmm wish I could pick up a cheap rolled Turbo X.. that's my kind of project :lol:
As you say if the floor pan is the same then yes I would swap everything over, complete loom etc.. make sure all electrics are ok replace or repair any iffy wires as they will soon rust and corrode and cause issue down the line..
If the floor is different then my next job would be to cut off and replace the shell onto AWD floor.. done loads with Cosworth floors..
Mind post your progress & pics

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:21 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm out of NZ this week, sunny beach in Tonga. All I've done so far is lie under the TX, if I move complete sub frames across, then deal with TX unique wiring, just waiting for a Haynes manual to arrive (don't know how much it'll help, but I'm hoping it'll show some differences)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:08 pm 
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Go online and download a "Saab WIS" & "Saab EPC". Workshop manual and parts list. That will tell you all you need. Haynes won't be much use in this situation.

Someone should be able to post a link to a reliable download site. I haven't looked recently.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:24 am 
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Back from getting some rays in Tonga, -5C mornings in NZ a bit of a shock. I've decided my plan is to strip my "rolled" TX and then move the required parts across to a donor car......looking at a 2009 2.8 Aero sportwagon at present. Decided it needs to be a 2.8 as the shell will have all the correct hanging points for the exhaust, as I believe the running gear from the TX will fit the wagon, my preference in that route. Early days but I have started the big strip down. :argh:


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Do you have any photos of the project car in it’s current state? Will be good to see the journey unfold.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:14 pm 
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Is there any chance you could re-body it with a convertible body and make the world's only Turbo-X convertible?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:31 am 
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I've bought a donor car from Japan ....2009 Saab 9-3 Aero Wagon -high milage, should be here in 6 weeks. Meanwhile been dismantling the TX, photo's below:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:36 am 
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Posting photos bit of a hassle ......here are some more. They didn't like me uploading a portrait so had to rotate it to the left to get it into landscape.

I drained the radiator, but now think could have got away without having to do this....


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:41 am 
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This is going to be the donor ....


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:06 pm 
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My yesterday efforts....


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:17 pm 
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"from Japan"???

Is it that easy or are they that cheap in Japan?

Must say I am looking forward to this. I envy anyone who has the skills to even think about taking on a project like this.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:23 pm 
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DeeDub8 wrote:
"from Japan"???

Is it that easy or are they that cheap in Japan?

Must say I am looking forward to this. I envy anyone who has the skills to even think about taking on a project like this.



Doubt it'll be easy.....but what the heck!

The Aero is highish milage 197,000km, my TX has 95,000km, so one day hopefully I'll end up with effectively a TX wagon, but I'll probably need "all the help I can get".


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:51 am 
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Todays effort, bit cold here so not a great amount achieved, hoping to get engine/transmission out tomorrow.


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Rear springs and dampers on the TX are not the same on saloon and wagon. And the TX ones are not the same as the front wheel drive cars.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:10 am 
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Rear springs and dampers on the TX are not the same on saloon and wagon. And the TX ones are not the same as the front wheel drive cars.


Probably easier to switch to something like coilovers, or import the hirsch kit from cardyourcar.eu

Or run with standard fwd suspension and don't carry heavy loads. Its the change in angle on the rear driveshaft that means the tx has self levelling suspension. Too much angle and it will damage the driveshaft cv boots.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:48 pm 
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Rear springs and dampers on the TX are not the same on saloon and wagon. And the TX ones are not the same as the front wheel drive cars.


Probably easier to switch to something like coilovers, or import the hirsch kit from cardyourcar.eu

Or run with standard fwd suspension and don't carry heavy loads. Its the change in angle on the rear driveshaft that means the tx has self levelling suspension. Too much angle and it will damage the driveshaft cv boots.


Not too worried about suspension, I'd heard that the rear suspension on the TX is self levelling, however it can't be that special, the shocks are self contained Sachs units, no external wires or air pipes running to them, so I think they'll work fine on the wagon, I'm thinking I'll use the wagon springs and maybe the anti-roll bar if thats thicker?

Front I'll use TX parts.


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