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Hi all, time has come to sell my Saab 9000 Aero so someone else can enjoy it (and I can replace it with a c900 T16s like my first car...) so below is the advert. First of all, this is the general advert that I'm posting everywhere, so if I'm teaching someone from UKS who knows all about 9000s to suck eggs, apologies. Also, the formatting of the service history hasn't transferred very well. Hopefully you can still read it.

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1993 Saab 9000 Aero

For those that simply want the basic facts, and can’t be bothered to read the full advert below, the basics are below. However, the full advert will tell you everything you will need to know about the car, and my ownership of it.

• 1993 Saab 9000 Aero in black, 86,750 miles, with comprehensive service history, no rust and 11 months MOT. Saab enthusiast owned.
• Stage 3 tune, Abbott intercooler, delivery pipe and exhaust.
• LSD, Bilstein B6, Eibach, SAS ARB front and rear, front strut brace, SAS spring spacers.
• Brembo and Saab discs, Saab and Ferodo DS2500 pads
• Period correct Carlsson-style wheels with Toyo T1-S Sport tyres
• Period Saab 9000 Alpine Audio system, electric Rocky Black Aero seats
• Headlining replaced, new headlights, new badges, headgasket done <5,000 miles ago, gearbox rebuilt <10,000 miles ago
• Price £4,600


Picture the scene: just 6 months earlier, on the 2nd of August 1993, you’d just driven out of Bell and Colville Saab with your brand-new £30,000 flagship 9000, the 2.3 Turbo Aero with 225bhp. But now, you’re in Manningtree Essex, discussing the potential of your pride and joy with Lionel and Ed Abbott. Another £4,900 paid, because you’ve given them the OEM wheels in exchange, you find yourself driving a 296bhp rocketship (the hand written notes from the road test confirm a 5.4 second 0-60mph time without crash changes) out of Abbott Racing’s barn.

Along with the stage 3 upgrade for the Trionic ECU, the car is fitted with an Abbott Racing intercooler, Koni adjustable dampers and Abbott Racing springs, a full Abbott Racing 3-inch stainless steel exhaust, special 16-inch Abbott Racing wheels and a Quaife Limited Slip Differential. It is now the car you dreamed it would be when you placed your order nearly a year earlier.

Fast forward to 2016, four years after I purchased it, and this 9000 Aero is now 23 years old with just 86,750 miles on the clock. Not 186,750 miles like most 9000s of any age, just 86,750 miles in total, with history to prove it. In fact I’d challenge you to find another 9000 Aero with such low mileage, for sale or not.

Of course mileage isn’t a guaranteed indicator of condition, but for this particular Aero the above expenditure at Abbott Racing is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the care lavished upon it.

The history file however isn’t without the odd gap. The book was stamped for PDI on 01/08/93 by supplying dealer Bell and Colvill, and again on 9/02/94 for its first service. We know the car was at Abbott Racing for all of the tuning work in March 1994, and there’s a receipt dated 07/04/97 for supply of front and rear brake pads from Abbott Racing. But the book is empty until 13/06/02 where Phil Taylor Saab serviced the car at 61,438 miles and the first separate invoice was 24/01/02 (57,905 miles) when Saab of Fareham replaced the clutch master cylinder. Incidentally Phil Taylor gave it another full service on 24/07/03 at 71,263 miles. From 2002 it is comprehensive and Saab specialist only.

I fail to believe that between 1994 and 2002 this car wasn’t serviced and maintained properly however, as the history file includes all but one MOT and every tax disc, along with lots of other supporting paperwork (including details of the Tracker system fitted when new). If you didn’t care about maintaining your car, you wouldn’t keep all those extra bits.

I’ve included a summary of most of the invoices in the history folder below, from which you’ll see some major items including a gearbox strip down with bearing replacement in 2004 (just 10,000 miles ago). As such the box engages all gears smoothly, including reverse, and doesn’t jump out of gear on the overrun or under load. There are some, from my ownership, that are lost but these mainly consist of parts fitted which you can see on the car, or mentioned in invoices when supplied by me but fitted by someone else.

When I acquired the car in 2012, I was told that the elderly owners had previously SORN’d the car for a handful of years, so I set about properly re-commissioning it.

The first thing I did was service it, changing all oils, filters, plugs, antifreeze, thermostat and a number of hoses. As ever with my vehicles, fully synthetic oil was used, and correct fitment sparkplugs (NGK for DI-equipped Saabs).

Contrary to common conception the early 9000 Aeros weren’t fitted with the famous Recaro wingback seats as standard, so the correct 1993/94 (memory on passenger side) Rocky Black set was sourced and installed along with matching door card inserts. A brand new leather gearknob was also sourced and fitted.

To finish the interior I replaced the aftermarket Sony CD player with a period option 2XDIN Saab 9000 Audio system by Alpine with under-seat amp. To set off the exterior I also sourced a set of period-correct 9000 Carlsson-style wheels, which were fitted with brand new Toyo T1 Sport tyres.

In July of that year the clutch hose failed on the way to a car show, and the car was recovered to Nottingham Saab (my favoured Saab specialist, despite living approx 100 miles away) where this was replaced, with the instructions of making the car perfect for the forthcoming trip to Belgium for that year’s Intsaab event. At this point the headgasket was also changed, brembo front and OEM Saab brake discs installed along with Ferodo DS2500 pads up front and OEM Saab rears, a second-hand oil cooler installed and a turbo water pipe renewed. I also replaced the 2.5-inch exhaust downpipe for a less-restrictive 3-inch item and I think it was then the poly gearbox mount and top engine mount were fitted.

Trip completed successfully, it was clear the Koni dampers and Abbott Racing springs were old and tired, so I sourced a brand new set of Bilstein B6 dampers and eibach lowering springs from a previous UKSaabs group buy. To improve the normal nose-up stance of the 9000 Aero a pair of SAS rear spring spacers were also fitted. Only a 9000 fan will notice, but along with a set of Maptun 15mm wheel spacers, this particular Saab now has the stance it should have had from the factory. After the second hand oil cooler failed, I bought a brand new Mocal oil cooler and had custom hoses fabricated to ensure it was good for another 23 years.

To complement the looks, and to work with the Quaife LSD previously fitted, I also installed front and rear SAS anti roll bars, along with a (now de-badged) Abbott Racing front strut brace. As far as 9000 handling goes, this is what most would consider the dream setup, and though the ride is noticeably firmer than a standard car, it remains civilised enough to cover large mileages in without complaint. Best of all it doesn’t wallow and roll around when you’re cornering enthusiastically, and the LSD reduces under-steer.

The engine map was changed before I bought the car, but is still stage 3 and created by a respected T5 Suite tuner, with a gentle build of boost so as to protect the gearbox. Despite the considerable performance on offer, in a straight-line and around the bends, this 9000 is a complete sleeper – the only visual giveaway is the Abbott Racing Exhaust pipe poking out of the Aero-spec rear bumper. To most others it’s simply a 23 year old Saab, that they don’t expect to have 225bhp never mind closer to 300bhp.

Apart from the history, mileage and specification the other thing that makes this 9000 Aero stand out is its lack of rust – something I had checked over when the car first visited Nottingham Saab in my care. 9000s often rust around the windscreen, especially if the glass has been replaced (often incorrectly, damaging the paint), along with the front and rear wheelarches - later cars are especially prone to the wings oxidising. This example is a non-sunroof car too, which I believe helps as there’s no drainage pipes or holes to get blocked. The wings are good, the doors are good and the windscreen is without bubble or blemish either.

Headlinings drop on old Saabs too, but earlier this year I replaced the drooping liner with a good one from another 9000 – and checked the inner roof and upper windscreen surround for any signs of corrosion. The good news is it’s as free of rust as the rest of the car. The original slam panel was exhibiting some surface rust, which let the rest of the engine bay down, so I fitted a better rust-free example which looks a lot better. Although I can’t find the invoice from Nottingham Saab, I think it was at this time the Forge actuator I had bought (and the bracket from Forge I do have the invoice for) was fitted to improve the car’s ability to hold boost.

For its MOT in 2012, the Saab failed its MOT due to the headlights – a common issue where the silver reflector degrades and they don’t throw out enough light. It passed the retest with some borrowed headlights, and then I set about sourcing others – I found a brand new in box RHD New Old Stock headlight from a main dealer on eBay, and sent the other reflector away for re-silvering by Saabits. A brand new headlight glass was also sourced, and the new lights fitted to the car. The cost of this endeavour alone was around £250, which will hopefully give you an idea of how well this car has been looked after in my care.

I actually can’t list everything, but below should give you a flavour

01/08/93 Bell and Colvill delivery miles
Pre Delivery Inspection
09/02/94 Bell and Colvill 11,430 miles
Full service
24/01/02 Saab of Fareham 57,905 miles £143.02
Replace clutch master cylinder, replace low pressure feed hose from reservoir
13/06/02 Phil Taylor Saab 61,438 miles
Full service
10/01/03 Southampton Saab £195.54
1X 9000 O/S door mirror
16/04/03 Southampton Saab 68,700 miles £421.39
Remove gearbox and renew slave cylinder, refit box
24/07/03 Phil Taylor Saab 71,263 miles
Full service
23/01/04 Saab of Fareham 75,605 miles £274.52
Strip off defective drive belt and tensioner, replace with new and strip out air-con clutch, clean and lubricate
15/07/04 Saab of Fareham 76,327 miles £645.55
Remove gearbox and strip down, replace all bearings and refit. Oil service
29/09/04 Saab of Fareham 76,770 miles £354.13
Replace heater fan motor.
24/08/06 Saab of Fareham 78,863 miles £76.31
Replace faulty Gear link damper block, check SRS System
21/09/06 Saab of Fareham 78,978 miles £227.35
Full service (oil, filter, plugs, anti-freeze)
09/05/08 Saab of Fareham 79,856 miles £70.49
Replace reverse light switch, isolate door sensor, re-set traction control.
13/03/12 Turners Hill Saab £10.72
Thermostat
22/03/12 Parts For Saab £21.63
Radiator to Waterpump hose, radiator to thermostat housing hose
30/07/12 Nottingham Saab £1262.85
Replace clutch hydraulic pipe, fit owner supplied oil cooler and pipes, replace turbo water supply pipe, replace oil pressure switch, replace head gasket, replace lambda sensor, replace alternator, fit owner-supplied exhaust downpipe, fit owner-supplied front and rear brake discs and pads. Oils, filters and antifreeze.
24/10/12 eBay £87.00
Brand new in box, genuine Saab 9000 CS headlamp
28/03/13 Saabits £16.49
5X Samco Sport Silicone vacuum hose 3mm Black
10/05/13 eBay – Buckingham Stanley Saab dealer £27.99
Saab 9000 CS headlamp Glass, genuine new in box
23/05/13 Nottingham Saab £642.00
Fit front and rear Bilstein B6 dampers, front and rear eibach springs, front ball joints, front track rod ends, front and rear SAS anti-roll bars, intake delivery pipe, top engine mount, front strut brace, battery, reset SRS system, reset tracking and supply and fit 2nd hand heater matrix. (mileage recorded at 82,959 miles)
08/07/13 Saabits £107.59
1X 9000 CS/CD headlamp reflector RH
09/07/13 Forge £32.76
Saab 9000 Aero actuator bracket
11/07/13 Think Automotive Ltd £109.84
Oil cooler 16 row, 230mm -6JIC
02/06/15 Saabits £7.91
2X Samco Sport Silicone vacuum hose 3mm Black
09/10/15 DIS Saab £248.40
Full Service (oil, filter, plugs, air filter, pollen filter), replace bonnet cable
17/09/16 DIS Saab £175
MOT Test, check for drain on battery, replace EDU

You can see above just how much this car has had spent on it, and that doesn’t include some of the parts I’ve bought in my time such as the brand new SAS bars, Bilstein B6 dampers, eibach springs, Toyo T1-S Sport tyres, discs, pads, intake pipe, downpipe, Carlsson alloy wheels, Aero seats, Alpine audio system, new headlining, badges or other trim parts.

Of course it isn’t 100% perfect – it is after all an original and un-restored 23-year old car – and there are a number of small jobs I’d consider doing if I was keeping it. They’re all cosmetic, the car is mechanically perfect.

• The bonnet has some stone chipping and it would benefit from a respray – there is however no rust on it.
• The bumpers have a couple of scuffs, so to make it perfect these could be painted.
• The driver’s side wing mirror plastic has faded – it comes up okay but could be replaced. I’ll include a better mirror housing in the sale.
• The driver’s door rubber seal is split in the middle. Again I’ll include a replacement in the sale.
• Inside the EDU display under the speedo occasionally has a faded/flickering pixel for the readout, but this doesn’t happen all the time.
• For this MOT it was identified the brake pipes were showing some surface corrosion, so I’d suggest these be rubber down and cleaned up or replaced.

I have a number of spares that I’ll include with the car if so wished, including a Rocky Black centre front armrest, spare Alpine Audio units with code card, spare headlight, headlight glass, headlight reflector, towbar with electrics, spare DI pack (genuine Saab), radiator top hose, wing mirror, driver’s door seal, BNIB Saab 9000 front brake caliper, poly bush puller, spare window switch pack (later style), centre console CD divider and cup holder and 9000 Haynes manual.

As an aside, there is an invoice missing (which I’ll endeavour to find) from earlier this year, which included an oil and filter service along with a new battery. As I can’t find it, for peace of mind I’m happy to negotiate on cost of materials or change the oil and filter for you before sale.

The car can be viewed at my home in Houghton Regis, or at my work in Milton Keynes under request. I’m happy to send over more pictures or scans of some of the paperwork should you wish, or discuss the vehicle over the phone. Also happy to put you in touch with the specialists I’ve used should you wish to discuss the car with them. If you would like to testdrive the car, I will require proof of insurance – otherwise I will happily demonstrate the vehicle to you.

The price is £4,600. I appreciate there a lot of other 9000 Aeros for sale are cheaper than that, but those aren’t as low mileage, as well-set up, as well-maintained or as rust-free. This car will make an excellent show-car for the Saab enthusiast, as part of a collection or a single pride and joy, and I don’t believe there are any better 9000 Aeros for sale now or within the last 12 months.

I will not haggle on this price over the phone: I’d ask you come and see the car and supporting paperwork if you’d like to discuss the price.

I will add more pics below once this ad is approved by a moderator, for now here's the handful I can embed in one post...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:00 am 
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The suspension/under arch as I took the wheel off (i.e not cleaned)

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DS2500 pads (with plenty of meat on them)
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A quick wipe over with a cloth
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Eibach wheel spacers (not some cheap stuff)
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Spares included (towbar not pictured)
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Headlight (think this is the new one, could be the refurbished one)
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Engine bay - note, unlike most 9000s this one no-longer has the oil leak at bottom right of cam cover. Bone dry
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New Mocal oil cooler
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Poly top mount (gearbox also done) and strut brace
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SAS spring spacers on rear mean this 9000 doesn't have the typical (and not very attractive) nose-up stance of most
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Arch gap pretty much perfect IMHO
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The view most people would see of this 9000
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Decor panel not split, cracked or damaged.
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Important sticker (Bell and Colvill were supplying dealer, but I mean the UKS one below!)
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There's that stance again
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Lots of original stickers
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Wheels and tyres in great condition - no kerbing and 6mm tread accross the fronts
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All OEM in here, right down to the audio system
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Headlining replaced a couple of months ago
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Audio system works perfectly, and even has the trim clips to side of CD player (I hunted these down for months)
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New gearknob
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Driver's seat with minimal wear
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Genuine thick Saab mats
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Can you find another Aero with lower miles?
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And such a comprehensive service history?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:46 pm 
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I had an identical '93 one in the late 90s, this looks very nice with a good write up but why has it got an Ecopower cam cover and what happened to the Abbott wheels? (shouldn't the centres of the wheels fitted be gunmetal?) Why has it been remapped from the Abbot spec?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:26 pm 
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Nick71 wrote:
I had an identical '93 one in the late 90s, this looks very nice with a good write up but why has it got an Ecopower cam cover and what happened to the Abbott wheels? (shouldn't the centres of the wheels fitted be gunmetal?) Why has it been remapped from the Abbot spec?

Original cam cover was sprayed silver (along with DI) by previous owner. I had planned to refurb the ecopower cam cover but grind off the eco first. However the silver cam cover had been over tightened and had a hairline crack by the bolt hole and was weeping oil so I replaced with this one and didn't manage to refurbishment. Silver DI went at same time and I replaced with a red one for oem look.

That's the reason the Abbott wheels went as well. They weren't in the best of condition, and I didn't think they suited the car. I knew the early 9000 Aeros came with Carly rather than super aero wheels so sourced these ones. They had already been refurbished by beardydave on here, and I've left them as is. If I was keeping the car, along with painting the bonnet and areas where bumpers are scuffed I'd have the rims diamond cut and centres painted - though I wouldn't go much darker than the silver grey they are now.

As for the remap, again done before I had the car. By beardydave again. Has to be said that Abbott may have a decent rep for hardware, but having seen some of their mapping first hand their software occasionally leaves a little to be desired. I'm certainly not worried about it not having the AR map - it's possible the current one on the car is actually better.

Hope that answers your questions Nick.

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Deposit received.

Provisionally sold. Will update if sale proceeds or not next Friday.

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Just a note on the wheels - those are correct for the 1993 Aero. As far as I know the grey wheels with polished rim were not fitted to the Aero (might have been available as an option) so for originality the silver ones are spot-on.

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The car wasn't boosting right and the previous owner asked me to have a look.

Abbott had done their usual of fitting a manual boost valve instead of the apc, but when replaced with the proper apc valve it ran really badly. I opened up the ecu to have a look at the map, and all they'd done was fit a variable resistor over the one of the sensor inputs, probably the inlet air temp or the manifold pressure sensor to force the ecu to increase the fueling.

I put my spare T5.2 ecu in and put a proper stage 3 map on.

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Thanks for the input chaps

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Hi - I assume this did sell? Thanks.

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jboy wrote:
Hi - I assume this did sell? Thanks.


Buyer is due to view/collect this Thursday. There is also a queue of other potential owners just behind him.

If for some reason it remains available after Thursday I will notify all interested parties.

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Thanks for all the intetest. This car is now sold.

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