UKSaabs

THE site for UK Saab people!
It is currently Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:13 am

All times are UTC





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:18 pm 
Offline
Saab Nut
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 pm
Posts: 1131
Location: East Fife.
Car Models: SAAB 96/MGB/Classic Twingo/Niss Figaro
It's 23:30 hrs, and I'm sitting here dreaming about going to the SAAB Festival at the SAAB museum in Trollhatten next year. (Pandemic permitting - surely we'll be back to normal by June 21?).
It's normally in early June, every second year, the odd years.

I mean drive there in a SAAB, not wimp it and take a plane. (where the hell would put the 50 kgs of spares that you buy at the Sunday Autojumble, if you fly?)
Working out routes, distances, ferries etc.
Costs will come later, but it's not cheap.
I went in 2015, so have some idea of what's involved

Very roughly, it's an overnight ferry to ijmuiden (In NL) from North Shields, or perhaps Hull to Rotterdam, depending on where you live.
Forget Channel crossings. Too far south.
Oh I just wish that they would re-instate the ferry to Esjbeg in Denmark.!!!!

Then across NL and Germany, overnight in Northern Germany. Ferry from Putgarden to Rodby in Denmark, by Copenhagen, and over the bridge to Sweden.
Another option to reduce driving, is ferry from Kiel to Gothenburg.

Might need another overnight stop, depends on what you're driving, and how many drivers you've got.
In a swish modern SAAB with 2 drivers, you would need less overnight stops.
In a 96....well......a wee bit noisy, but what fun!!!!

My wife doesn't drive the 96, so I have to do it all, so I'd probably need another stop.

We went in 2015, and it really is theeeeee place to go for any SAABist. Wall to wall SAABs.
A huge autojumble and spares market on the Sunday, that only sells SAAB parts.....

Anybody else interested in forming a convoy?

Any takers?

Andy

Scenes from the 2015 Festival. Can't believe it's already 5 years ago.

My car back to the street that she came from in 1978. No sign of Ralph Arvid Gustavsson, the first owner!!!

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image


Last edited by The Troll on Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:14 am, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:27 pm 
Offline
UKS Encyclopædia G-M
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:39 am
Posts: 42065
Location: SW Herts
Car Models: 2007 9-5 Aero est. 300hp Hirsch. 9-3 2010 9-3 Carlsson
There was an announcement earlier that the 2021 Festival has been postponed to 2022 to coincide with the Saab 75th Anniversary. Ian Hodcroft said something about it at the SOC AGM in October, but I've heard nothing since.

_________________
.
.
.
.
Everything will be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:33 pm 
Offline
Saab Nut
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 pm
Posts: 1131
Location: East Fife.
Car Models: SAAB 96/MGB/Classic Twingo/Niss Figaro
Ah, Sgould, (Sorry, don't know your real name), I was not aware of this.

Oh well, 2022, surely the effects of the pandemic will be gone by then! Please, pretty please!!!
Sounds good, 2 years to plan it.
I'll go to Kilbroney, (Rostrevor) County Down, next year instead, it's on around the same time.

Andy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:00 am 
Offline
Light Pressure Turbo
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:27 pm
Posts: 553
Location: Bristol, UK
Car Models: '09 9-5 Turbo Edition St3 Noob
Both myself and the Wife have been talking about visiting Sweden, especially Trollhättan.

Would love it to coincide with a group, but after seeing the pictures, not sure the 9-5 would be welcome.

Do UK'ers with more modern Saab's get involved?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:17 am 
Offline
Saab Nut
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 pm
Posts: 1131
Location: East Fife.
Car Models: SAAB 96/MGB/Classic Twingo/Niss Figaro
Broomies Mate.

I can assure you that there were plenty modern SAABs there.

I'm into old classic cars, so I'm afraid I tend to photograph them.
If we were to organise some sort of group, ALL SAABs would be welcomes.


Andy
A couple of moderns.

Image

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:28 am 
Offline
Light Pressure Turbo
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:27 pm
Posts: 553
Location: Bristol, UK
Car Models: '09 9-5 Turbo Edition St3 Noob
That's great Andy. Thank you.

I look forward to reading more when a date can be officially set.

Kind Regards

Ross


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:22 am 
Offline
UKS Encyclopædia G-M
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:39 am
Posts: 42065
Location: SW Herts
Car Models: 2007 9-5 Aero est. 300hp Hirsch. 9-3 2010 9-3 Carlsson
Oh! Yes. :)

We went last year in the Carlsson. And parked in the 9-3 car park in a row of 14 or 15 XWD cars... :j We kept getting stopped by people wanting to see “The Unicorn”. A car that they had heard of existing in the UK, but not seen elsewhere!

There were well over 1000 cars. They only checked the numbers at one entrance, and that was 900, but there were two other ways in that the locals also used. Estimates were 1200 cars.

The whole area around the museum was used. It’s an industrial area which is largely empty at the weekend. There were separate car parks for each model, from the 92 up to the NG 9-5, including a street of 9000s.

_________________
.
.
.
.
Everything will be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:25 pm 
Offline
UKS Encyclopædia G-M
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:39 am
Posts: 42065
Location: SW Herts
Car Models: 2007 9-5 Aero est. 300hp Hirsch. 9-3 2010 9-3 Carlsson
I found some photos from last year's event...

A car park of NG9-3's. This is the XWD row, the rest were off to the right in the rest of the car park.

Attachment:
P1020386.JPG
P1020386.JPG [ 205.4 KiB | Viewed 1649 times ]



Then a car park full of OG9-5's...

Attachment:
P1020407.JPG
P1020407.JPG [ 187.27 KiB | Viewed 1649 times ]



And a street of NG9-5's

Attachment:
P1020406.JPG
P1020406.JPG [ 189.29 KiB | Viewed 1649 times ]

_________________
.
.
.
.
Everything will be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:49 pm 
Offline
UKS Encyclopædia G-M
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:39 am
Posts: 42065
Location: SW Herts
Car Models: 2007 9-5 Aero est. 300hp Hirsch. 9-3 2010 9-3 Carlsson
Just so you get an idea of the scale of the event. Here's a plan based on Google Earth. :D

Attachment:
Trollhattan 2019.png
Trollhattan 2019.png [ 680.73 KiB | Viewed 1649 times ]

_________________
.
.
.
.
Everything will be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:03 am 
Offline
Saab Nut

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:24 pm
Posts: 1293
Location: Southwater, West Sussex mm
Car Models: 9-3 1.8t Vector convertible
Mmmm, I'm liking the idea of this.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:46 am 
Offline
UKS Addict
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:12 pm
Posts: 9296
Location: Portsmouth
Car Models: 96 V4 & 9-3 Turbo-X
Gives me a target for the 96...

Wife didn't look impressed at my idea of her driving up in the Turbo-X whilst I bring Dusty though.

_________________
'75 96 V4 Anniversary Restoration Project
'09 9-3 Turbo-X Wagon No. 38
B204 Haynes Roadster Project


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:03 pm 
Offline
Saab Nut
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 pm
Posts: 1131
Location: East Fife.
Car Models: SAAB 96/MGB/Classic Twingo/Niss Figaro
Well it seems that the sgould is correct, I have had comms with Iain Hodcroft, and the SAAB Festival will probably be in 2022, not 2021.

This is because 2022 is the 75 years anniversary of the founding of the car branch of SAAB.
So 2 years to plan!

Andy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:21 pm 
Offline
UKS Addict

Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 8:34 am
Posts: 3721
Location: West Dorset UK
Car Models: 96TT/900S Cabrio/9-3SW Aero
As has been said earlier, that gives us a couple of years to plan for it and sort out the cars we plan to take. I last took a car (9-5 Aero Wagon) in 2007, for the 60th anniversary event, in the GWS convoy (>10 cars, if I remember correctly, I have the photos!). We were lucky in that we were able to sail from Harwich to Esbjerg overnight; it was a long drive the next day, via Helsingor and Helsingborg, but we all made it safely. The last 2 times I've been over I've flown to Gothenburg and rented vehicles, unfortunately not Saabs :cry: .
It would be great to go over again in 2022, by road, in a Saab; I think that will probably be the last time I make it as I'll be getting a bit old by then. Best route for me would probably be Harwich-Hook of Holland and then drive up to Trollhattan. I think I'll need a co-driver or two! Unlikely that I'll risk taking the 96 but the 900 vert would be a good and reliable steed.

_________________
David.
1960 BMW Isetta 300
1969 Opel GT


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:56 pm 
Offline
Light Pressure Turbo
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:53 pm
Posts: 469
Location: Muir of Ord, Highland
Car Models: 1972 96 V4, 1987 900 T16 Cabrio (LHD)
A better bet for those of us in the North would be to take the ferry from North Shields to I'jmuiden.
Granted it's a long sea crossing (15hr +), but saves the unnecessary drive down to Harwich.

_________________
Saab - Beyond the conventional !


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:26 pm 
Offline
UKS Addict
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:12 pm
Posts: 9296
Location: Portsmouth
Car Models: 96 V4 & 9-3 Turbo-X
Oh for the Newcastle/Gottenburg route.

I have fond memories of the DFDS boats over to Scandinavia as a kid.
I won the kids quiz each way, 3 holidays running. I only didn't win the 4th so that I could help my sister win! :oops:

We had so many copies of the DFDS themed pair matching game!

_________________
'75 96 V4 Anniversary Restoration Project
'09 9-3 Turbo-X Wagon No. 38
B204 Haynes Roadster Project


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:49 am 
Offline
Saab Nut
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 pm
Posts: 1131
Location: East Fife.
Car Models: SAAB 96/MGB/Classic Twingo/Niss Figaro
Deggsie
Aye, we've used the North Shields Ijmuiden (Advertised as Newcastle - Amsterdam), route a few times.
Great crossing, love it, and only 3 1/2 hours from home.

HOWEVER, there are some downsides.
One is cost, which has risen enormously in the last few years.
Last time we used it in 2017, it was about £550ish return for the two of us including the car and cabin and meals.
When I priced it up in 2018, with a view to going to the International in 2019, it had risen to £750ish without meals, same time of year.

The other problem is they do not normally, do any sort of Flexi Fares, where you can have a cancellation option. They were offering some cancellation options last year, tied in with Brexit, but that won't be around in 2022.
When I spoke to them about it, all they said was claim on your travel insurance if you have to cancel. Well that's OK, if you have to cancel due to illness, death in the family, or something similar.
No use if you just can't go because of other reasons, like you can't afford it any more, or your best mate's getting married, or whatever.

I then looked at Harwich Hook of Holland. £250 return with a cancellation option up to a few days before departure.
There's a 2300 departure, so I could leave the house early bells, and easily make a 2300 departure, though a very long day.
For you up there in the "real" North Derek, (not that Mickey Mouse "North" around Manchester, ha ha ha :D ), you might need a night on the way.
I booked that in the end, but ended up cancelling, and got my money back.

There's also Hull to Rotterdam, but I think it's also expensive, and I'm not sure about the cancellation options.

I took the old 96 to the 2015 festival, and we took the North Shields ferry, but it's a long haul from the north Dutch coast to Trollhatten.
We stopped near Bremen, then went to Rugen, (German island in the Baltic), where I have rellies, and then the Sassnitz Trellborg ferry.

Came back over the bridge from Malmo to Copenhagen, and the ferry from Rodby to Pudgarden, overnight in Lubeck, then onto Ijmuiden.
It's a long, long haul.
With two drivers, (my wife doesn't drive the 96), and a modern, smooth SAAB, you could probably do it with one overnight stop.

BeardDave.
Aye indeed, Newcastle - Gothenburg.....must have been great.
If someone would even bring back the Harwich - Esjberg route it would be better than what we currently have, to get to Scandinavia.

It would be great if we could get a "convoy" together to go to the festival, and have a week in Sweden afterwards.


Last edited by The Troll on Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:15 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:56 pm 
Offline
Active user

Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:52 am
Posts: 94
Location: Suffolk
Car Models: Saab 99 turbo
My partner and I have been talking about this. We would love to go but need to sort a few things out first. We have some time, so with luck we will hopefully be able to make it.

How many miles / hours per day are generally spent getting there once you've made the crossing?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:57 pm 
Offline
UKS Encyclopædia G-M
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:39 am
Posts: 42065
Location: SW Herts
Car Models: 2007 9-5 Aero est. 300hp Hirsch. 9-3 2010 9-3 Carlsson
Last year we drove all the way in the 9-3 Carlsson. Late start from N. London to overnight int the Ibis in Calais. We like this as there are frequent tunnel crossings and you have a 2 hour grace on being late, which helps if the M25 seizes up. The hotel has a 24 hour reception, so any delays on the crossing don't affect you really. And you are ready and fresh for a start in the morning. Ibis also have a flex option for cancelling for a few £££ more.

We did one stop near Bremen, and then had a few days in Copenhagen, before going via the Helsingor-Helsingborg ferry. But it's the same price as the bridge. We did both bridges on the way back and had an overnight in Kolding, Denmark. Again the Scandic has a 24 hr reception so we were not time compromised. Then a leisurely drive back to Bremen, this time via the Gluckstadt ferry over the Elbe to avoid the huge queues in Hamburg. but there was a huge queue there too, but it was different...

_________________
.
.
.
.
Everything will be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:21 pm 
Offline
Saab Nut
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:28 pm
Posts: 1131
Location: East Fife.
Car Models: SAAB 96/MGB/Classic Twingo/Niss Figaro
0Sleeper0

I personally don't drive more than 5 or 6 hours a day.
I'll look at what Google Maps says for the time, add on 20%, and that'll be my leg for the day.

A younger person (I'm in my 60s), might manage more hours in a day.
Also depends what you're driving.
A 96 is not a quiet car at 70 mph, unless you're freewheeling of course.!!!

As I said in my earlier post, if you're driving a smooth, modern SAAB, you would probably manage more hours/miles in a day.

It's mostly dull boring motorway driving.

Some might want to stick to the A roads, and take a few days to get there and a few days to get back.
It all depends how much time you have.
Sgould having a few days in Copenhagen certainly makes it more of a pleasure.

Andy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: SAAB Festival 2021
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:01 pm 
Offline
Light Pressure Turbo
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:53 pm
Posts: 469
Location: Muir of Ord, Highland
Car Models: 1972 96 V4, 1987 900 T16 Cabrio (LHD)
The Troll wrote:
(not that Mickey Mouse "North" around Manchester, ha ha ha :D )
Na, na Andy, nae upsetting the Southerners now !.

You're right about the Newcastle/I'Jmuiden ferry, we've used it a few times and really liked it, but didn't appreciate the lack of fare flexibility.
It's just that to my mind, the extra 300 miles to Harwich is 'wasted', and the ferry takes you further south on the Continent too.

For those that haven't done it, the Oresund bridge is a must, and the Rodby/Pudgarten ferry is good too.
An alternative if you have the time is Helsingborg/Helsingor and then through Denmark.
I'm a 'sole driver' too so would want to take three days each way (at least).

BeardDave - I remember going DFDS Felixstowe to Gothenburg back in the late 70s - that was an overnighter too (but too far South to be of much use now).

Agreed, restoring the Harwich - Esjberg route would be good for getting direct to Scandinavia without a long drive through Netherlands/Germany.
Better still perhaps (for me at least) ... the old Aberdeen to Bergen route !

Plenty of time to work on the "convoy" to the festival in 2022 ...

_________________
Saab - Beyond the conventional !


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

follow UKSaabs on Twitter



UKSaabs silhouette logo images by Mark Green www.greenphotos.com
"subsilver2" slightly bodged by UKSaabs for our own use.

:: Disclaimer ::
Comments posted here are the views of their individual authors and are not necessarily shared by the owners of this Web site.
Authors assume all responsibility for comments posted here.

UKSaabs The biggest and best privately owned UK based independent Saab forum for all SAAB enthusiasts.
Whilst we encourage our users to support our advertisers the site wishes to remain independent and therefore does not endorse any particular advertiser(s)
UKSaabs is not affiliated with Saab Cars UK or Saab Automobile AB