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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:07 pm 
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Hi all, seeing as we now have a projects area I might as well take the plunge and tell you about mine.

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1985 T16S Silver with Colorado Red Leather interior and 80’s red dash mileage 77k.

The Background

This car was purchased from its second owner by a local Saab specialist after losing reverse gear and suffering some damage to the drivers front wing this was in 1991. The indie aimed to repair the car and use for himself, he removed the engine and gearbox replaced first gear and lowered engine box back into car and never reconnected it or went any further.

I bought my first Saab from this trader 13 years ago and remembered the car being in the corner of the workshop back then. Over the last 13 years there’s not much I’ve not owned in the way 900/9000’s and I always wondered what had happened if anything to the car. Last year whilst in the area I thought I’d pay the garage a visit to see if he was still trading, As it happens he was at the garage. It transpired that he’d had to sadly close the business in 2001 due to being in a residential area, the stress took its toll and he never was able to recover the business from that point.

I was amazed to find the car unmoved and nearly complete. I wasn’t looking for a project car at the time as I already have a 1991 900 convertible, but the car was about to be scrapped so I had to step in and save it, how on earth was I going to explain this to my wife who was 8 months pregnant at the time? She was very understanding and after securing the rental of an additional garage to free up my garage I was then able to relocate the convertible. The car was rescued and transported to its new home, this was in July 2008.

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To completely overhaul/restore the car to original condition using refurbished original and new oem parts. It will receive new windscreen and a full professional respray with all glass removed.

The only unoriginal part of the car will be that the T16S body kit will be repainted
Silver which is how the car was when I rescued it, I think that it suits the flat front car very well. Bumpers will remain black.

Here's some pictures to start with.

Recovering the car

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:34 pm 
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Interesting project and a good story.

Is the car structurally solid? I would hope so if it's been garaged all these years.

Keep us updated with events, and good luck!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:59 pm 
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Thanks Cheq

Car is completely rust free structurally I would have walked away otherwise. Thankfully it's been sat in a dry garage for the last 18 years, all usual trouble area's are perfect, there is some surface rust however but very superficial and most has now been dealt with.

I've been working on the car for 13 months, it's moved on a lot from when I picked it up, still got a massive amount left though. I'll try and bring this topic upto speed over the next few weeks, main problem will be sifting through 1000's of pictures :wink:


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Hurry up then Redders, get them pics sorted, I love these kind of threads.
Cracking story too, what a great car this ones gonna be.
Looking forward to future instalments of yet another brilliant rebuild thread. 8)

Best of luck with the rest of it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:44 am 
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Fantiastic! I love projects like this too. Great barn finds restored to their former glory. I am sure it will be a very rewarding project to say the least.

Looking forward to the updates.....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:04 pm 
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Funnily enough that's how I referred to it as a barn find, I also found that various animals have been living under the bonnet by the amount of chewed hazel nut shells, probably rats :?

This is how the car looked under the bonnet. I did check that the engine turned freely and thankfully it was easy to turn by hand due to the absence of any clutch. As you can see there's a lot missing from the bay, 90% of which was in the boot.

I did find all manner of parts floating around the engine bay inc some 9000 bits.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:15 pm 
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Engine after pressure washing and general tidying. Note inlet manifold, it doesn't have vacuum line on top left-hand side, is this another 1985 specific component?

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OMG!!! Redders :shock: :shock:

I didn't know that was the car you had. How the hell did you get to have that car off Tim? I've been drooling over that thing for years in the back of his workshop.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:10 am 
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I did wonder if you knew him.

I thought he'd never part with it hence why I couldn't walk away from the car when he offered it to me. He wanted to see the car saved rather than scrapped, it was an emotional day for him to finally see the car being moved after 18 years.

I've been keeping him upto date on the resto and he's a bit gutted that he didnt do it himself.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:48 am 
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Redders wrote:
Engine after pressure washing and general tidying. Note inlet manifold, it doesn't have vacuum line on top left-hand side, is this another 1985 specific component?


Well, specific to the early years of the 16 valve anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:55 am 
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Yeah I know Tim, didn't actuallyrealise he stopped trading though. Does he still have the 99T in the garage at home?
Also have you found out what the parallel port thing in the lower cente console was for in the silver car?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:06 am 
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Yeah he still has the 99T, its in a sorry state with corrosion in every panel.

I've been trying to get him to do something with it, the best plan being to rebody it IMHO.

I can't ever see him letting it go, in case anyone asks :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:09 am 
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Jope wrote:
Well, specific to the early years of the 16 valve anyway.


My engine was made November 1984, I've seen 1985/86 cars with the later type, couldnt have been used for long.


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you've got a very nice car there :envy: :envy:
looking forwards to reading this one

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thought I recognised the garage in the photos.........Tim's had a convertible in there when I was there - that looked pretty darn good too!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:01 pm 
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Si the parallel connector in the centre console was for a phone kit, the handset was in the boot, I'll be removing this and repairing the hole left by the aerial on the rear offside wing.

McVities, Tim still has the white T16 convertible, does now need some body work but its a stunner.

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The front suspension and brakes had seen better days, the nearside had sustained some damage to the transmission area, god knows how, this has now been repaired with a clean section kindly donated by ejenners old T16 shell. The offside was only connected by the upper ball joint, very scary stuff after transporting the car tandem from Cwmbran to Caerphilly :bag:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:18 pm 
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I was intending on just recommissioning the car and having a decent and usable T16S, but as I started to dismantle the suspension to repair the various issues I decided that the only route was to this properly and strip the front of the car back to the shell.

After removing all front suspension, brakes etc, christmas was spent removing the engine and striping the engine bay.

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My makeshift bogey allowed me to move the engine around thanks to a well known bakery :wink:

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The engine bay appeared to be reasonably clean after lots of pressure washing. Lots of surface rust but nothing that needed any replacement metal, just treating.

You'll notice the earlier type of engine mounts.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:50 pm 
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That 99T of his is looking a bit sad now, seems he's moved it outside. Last time I saw it it was just dusty in the garage of the house.
The white vert was one he bought to use as a charity wedding car. Had special plates made up for it as well. IIRC it was a very very low mileage car and might have been one of the first in the country.


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It is in the garden blocked in by scarabe green 900 lpt, a couple of early 9000 turbo's (may have now been scrapped) and a 9000 CD.

The white vert is on private plates, although I think it's an 87 model, It looked lovely back in the day, I don't think I've ever seen it move.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:14 pm 
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I decided to start work on the bulkhead first. I contemplated removing the firewall but decided against it as access to behind the dash board was very restricted as the car is in narrow single garage. Rolling the car was obviously out the question with no suspension, so it stayed in situ.

It was taken to the bare metal, primed with acid etch primer and finished with high temperature paint. It did look very bright this has now dulled down and looks right.

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