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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:52 pm 
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Would appreciate some guidance from any ICE experts, I'm stumped.

I've just been sold, by Halfords ( I know, I know), an Autoleads PC9-451 adaptor to aid in the installation of a Pioneer DA120 to a 9-5 2005 (with factory amp). I'm told an adaptor is necessary as the ISO speaker channels on the Pioneer are already amplified, the Saab amp on top of that consequently gives me a choice of volume levels from 'Ow!' to 'nose bleed'. The RCA outputs are unamplified apparently.

Unfortunately the RCA outputs from the DA120 head unit terminate in females and the inputs on the adapter are females.

Also the ISO input (non-speaker) on the adaptor is male, same as the head unit ISO outputs! And the adaptor ISO output to join to the vehicle harness is female, same as the harness.

In summary everything on the adaptor is the 'wrong way round'.

I must have the wrong adaptor but can't see anything on Autoleads or elsewhere that's the correct way round.

Must be a simple solution :wall: .

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:17 pm 
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I just hard wired the RCA outlets on my new head unit to the wires from the amp. I put ground loop isolators in the circuit. The isolators I got came with male connectors to connect to the head unit and female on the other. Then I got some wires with male RCA on each end and cut them in half, leaving a connector for the grondloop isolator and bare ends to crimp to the audio wires from the amp. I cut the connectors off the amp wires that fitted into the back of the original head unit.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?text=ground+loop&x=0&y=0

I didn't use a harness.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:53 am 
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http://saabworld.net/showthread.php?t=84


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:07 am 
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Thanks both. I've read that link, was hoping to avoid any soldiering / cutting / splicing but looks like the only way to go.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:43 am 
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The harness you have should plug into the connectors in the loom that you have pulled out of the back of the radio. I would leave the connectors attached to the loom and cut the wires on the harness. That way you can reinstall if it all goes wrong, as you won't have cut any original wires. And you can do the work outside the car in plenty of space and see what you're doing...

There weren't any harnesses to cut when I did mine!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:03 pm 
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It doesn't unfortunately, all back to front, it's going back and the wire cutters are coming out.

I have a separate additional harness adaptor to retain steering wheel controls, I'll patch in to that to avoid cutting either the car harness.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:49 pm 
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You need the PC9-415 lead instead. This will achieve what you want with no cutting required. You may also need a pair of ground loop isolators to avoid any him or pops from the speakers.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:32 pm 
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I thinks that's for Dame Edna's or cars with sat nav as standard, my 9-5 is a late pre-facelift with AS2 so has the earlier harness with 2 x 8 pin connectors and a 10 pin.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:27 pm 
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So it's in eventually, would have been so much simpler with a list of necessary cables / harnesses as it's basically plug and play once you have all the stuff.

What I used to fit a Pioneer DA120 to a pre-facelift with AS2 9-5:
Connects2 CT23SA01A Double DIN Facia Plate for Saab
Handbrake detection bypass kit from eBay
ISO to RCA line in adapter like this: http://www.rudiemods.co.uk/line-out-ada ... ng-harness
OR an amp pass through like Connects 2 CTAMPPASSTHROUGH (as you need to either use the RCA outs on the headunit or convert the ISO out to non-amplified)
2 Ground Loop Isolators (to stop buzz and pop when powering down, only if you use ISO to RCA adapter and not an amp pass through)
Connects2 CTSSA002.2 Steering Control Adaptor (to retain steering wheel controls)
A wire tap (for tapping in the CTSSA002.2 to the steering wheel control line behind the SID)

Think that was all!

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