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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:48 pm 
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99 Pete wrote:
Having gone as far as you have I would definitely strip and check the 'box.
Such a pain to take it all out again, particularly on a 99 T16!
At a minimum change the pinion bearings.
The main shaft nut will probably have loosened off a bit allowing the gears to shift back and forth.
Check the layshaft carefully for wear.


having had a look at it today I've found that the mainshaft spacer on 5th gear spins, I'm led to believe that means that the pinion bearings have had it, I suppose it'll have to come apart!
Or fit a chillcast 4speed that I have.
I suspect by the end of tomorrow I'll either have the 5speed in a hundred bits or the 4 speed fitted :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:06 pm 
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the local gearbox guru has said he'll take a look at it, anyone in the north east knows who Charlie Rennie is and his reputation, I'm going to drop it off tomorrow and he reckons I'll have it back in a few weeks :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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So, the engine that was fitted to the car was an early B202, combined with a 90 bottom pulley meant that the bulkhead didn't need modifying to accept the T16. I seem to remember the later B202s having a longer crank. This one came out of an early 9000.ImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on FlickrImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on Flickr

Although it had been leaking quite a lot of oil it was neither running down the engine nor being splattered up from the crank pulley, this told me it must be the engine-gearbox gasket, however I'm going to do all the engine gaskets anyway before the final refit to the gearbox, as I had come this far Dad suggested I should paint the engine too, I thought I'd be best to strip the rust off it before the oil pump and timing cover were removed, at least at this point they are keeping the dust out!
Still lots of steel brush work to do but an hour with some GUNK then steel brush on the grinder took it to this point.
ImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by ianlaw99, on FlickrThe 5 speed gearbox is back from Charlie, he couldn't find much up with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:22 pm 
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It looks good Ian, as shiny you should just lacquer it :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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I've done all the gaskets and seals on the engine, I had the engine bolted to the gearbox with the gasket, but the gasket doesn't have the provision for the holes behind the flywheel, Martin at Jamsaab pointed me in the right direction so I separated it again and sealed it with Loctite 518. Dad had some in stock :-)
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Tonight I got the clutch fitted and the engine lifted into the car, still to bolt it in and fit the shafts! hopefully it'll never drip oil again!, The front gearbox housing escaped the clean up, I'll get it.
Please bear in mind I'm not restoring it, it's just been in bits to iron some snags and improve the conversion.

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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Espin99 wrote:
Nice 8)


Thanks Mal :D

I was really needing to get it back in, the engine hoist was borrowed from work, I've been lucky to have had it for weeks and nobody's missed it :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:04 pm 
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Looking good Ian :P

What paint did you use on the engine ?

I'll have to come up and check this one out. I should visit Faither at the same time to complete my Saab fix :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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I'll have to come up and check this one out. I should visit Faither at the same time to complete my Saab fix :roll:
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Mind take me with you Jim... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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Lovely run for Saabocus Mike . . . . game on. :park:

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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Lovely run for Saabocus Mike . . . . game on. :park:



I totally agree :) kettle is on!

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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Ps Jim, it's POR 15 engine enamel :-)
Do you fancy selling me that EMS spoiler back?

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:35 pm 
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Hi Ian.

Thanks for the paint information . . . . . .looks good.

The spoiler is fitted to my car :? but I have another one which is a glass fibre skin without the mounting plates and brackets . . . . . .colour is black.

I bought a mounting kit from Jamsaab for the one that you sold to me.

Hopefully get up your way when the weather improves.

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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Glad you used it Jim, have a huge soft spot for your 99, my first Saab was a white A reg 99 :-)
If you happen to ever want to sell either spoiler and you're up my way please stick it in the boot!

I've spent most of this weekend looking at the front of the 99 and trying to figure out where, if anywhere an intercooler would sit. All sorts of daft ideas have came and went (including cutting it into the bumper!!) At the end of the day though I still want it to look like a 99.
One advantage I noticed with having it T5'd is that I've neither a distributor or the airbox and airmass meter normally associated with a T16 in a 99. This extra room could allow me to lift the radiator up ever so slightly and back, with the idea that I'd manage to get a Front mounted intercooler in, and fit a fan on the engine bay side of the radiator.

so all in, not much difference, clutch bled (nipple opened, lightly pressurised the reservoir with compressed air til fluid ran with no air, closed nipple, job done) and I've ordered an intercooler off Ebay that definitely won't fit but will be fun trying.
Turbo bolted up for mocking up purposes only :-)
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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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OK Ian,

Will do :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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A few wee jobs done last night but nothing tonight, this arrived in the post today:
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I had to nip into the shed and see how big it actually was. bigger than I thought!
I need this to fit without altering the front of the car, I can see the slam panel getting some surgery!
***Edit: looking at it again I think I'll need a miracle to make this work, if anyone has a miracle spare :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
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I'm sure you'll be able to sell it on and buy a smaller one Ian...

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:40 pm 
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Aye Ian,

Give it to Mike . . . . . . he has been known to perform miracles :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Saab 99 T5
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:25 pm 
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Looks like it might fit.
You could remove the supports for the slam panel which are only really to mount the rad and for the headlamp wiper linkage.
Probably need to move the rad back a bit which should be possible as you don't have a distributor. Turbo might be very close though.

My concern would be how much it will restrict airflow through the rad which is a bit marginal on a turbo anyway.
Also you won't have much space for a decent size fan.

This is always going to be a problem on a 99 if you want it to look standard on the outside. The design just doesn't lend itself to fitting in a load of heat exchangers as well as getting air in and out to cool them.

Whats going on under the bumper? Have you got the 99 turbo spoiler? Chargecooler rad behind the r/h spoiler grill was my solution but it's not an ideal set up.

Good luck and lots of pics how you do it please, I might copy it!


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