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 Post subject: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:20 pm 
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I did write a massive emotional post about my return to Saab ownership but it wouldn’t post so this abstract rhetorical version will have to do. Forget the question mark in the title, short of it spontaneously combusting before I get there, it’s happening.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:07 am 
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I think they're a stunning car; photos when you collect it please.
I looked at a couple before settling on another BMW (I know, I know) and the peeling buttons was more prevalent than not. There isn't much variation in specification, but the rare sports seats are worth it. Not sure about the merits of nav or HUD, or indeed which engine is best (good & bad in both petrol & diesel). I'll be following this thread...

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:10 am 
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Paddy2bsure wrote:
photos when you collect it please.
I'll be following this thread...


Moving this to ''Your Cars'' The place for your car diaries (blogs), letting everyone know about your new cars, mini projects and minor upgrades etc...

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:00 pm 
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Thanks, I was wondering where it had gone. :D

It's on the drive, petrol 2.0T. I'm supposed to be working from home but I'm posting this instead!


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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:47 pm 
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When your working from home almost anything qualifies as working, as long as you touch the computer that's working :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:18 pm 
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Loving it so far but need to have a look through the combined 350 pages worth of infotainment system and owners manuals! I've only ever had one previous car that wasn't designed in the 90s (and that was fairly base spec) so the complexity of the toys is something new to me.

What can I do to it? Are there any simple hacks to improve it, I'm thinking along the lines of my last 9-5 (MY04) whereby simply changing the indicator stalk would give you cruise control. Rear view cameras, rear seat screens etc. I'm also toying with the idea of a gentle remap to 260, any options local to the NE for this? What are the options for updating the sat nav, I'm more interested in the maps (v 20.09.03) themselves than the software (E409) as we live in a new build that was a rugby pitch up until 4 years ago.

Sorry for the stream of consciousness wish list, I will start having a look myself (especially for the sat nav as there appears to be info on a few options out there), I just wondered if any of you good people had some answers or ideas that I hadn't thought of.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:29 pm 
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Wishy wrote:
Loving it so far
^^ Still this. ^^

I've updated the entertainment system firmware successfully to E800 from E409 which has fixed the clock being an hour out, the sat nav not saving locations and the Belgium problem.

Mostly a note to self but may be useful to others.
E800 files for Europe here. IIRC I had to register at Saabworld to get the files.
Instructions for update here, there's also a pdf instruction that comes with the files.

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Just two files for European version
Two stages for the install, first stage looks like it hangs before completion, CHILL!
Second stage looks like it hasn't started for a while, again CHILL!
Whole process about 15 minutes, I just did it on my commute.
After completion it will start again but just cancel and all should be good.
I'm not sure if the USB stick needs to be empty apart from the two files but if you have music on as well then it will read that but not the update.
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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:32 pm 
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In for a penny, in for a pound.

I've bitten the bullet and spent £95 on a sat nav map update. This has taken me from v20.09.03 to v20.12.02 which AFAIK is the latest that I can get. Useless for where I live as in a 4 year old new build but it did get me a new road across town that's part of my commute (and a potential bottleneck). I figured to just spend the money now and reap whatever (slight) benefit I get throughout my ownership. It did also give me better lane indications for motorways than the old version.

Notes to self (as usual may be useful to others).
Link to buying in this thread, basically select a MY2011 Vauxhall Ampera for the 2013 maps but put your actual Saab VIN in.
I did read threads that you should keep the car running during this 80 min update. I had intended to do this, factoring in a visit to my folks where I could leave the car running, but accidentally switched the engine off on arrival. The update worked fine just leaving the disc in over several stop/starts over a couple of days. Switching to NAV shows a progress bar for the paranoid (me for example).
This possibly looks interesting, I'll be offering my codes and possibly number crunching services.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:06 am 
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Nice car, how did you get on with the remap?
Don't think I have seen under the bonnet of an NG9-5.
How does the 2.0T engine compare to a late 9-3?

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:39 pm 
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Pretty much showing my age with that avatar (albeit probably only to those of a certain vintage)!

Not done anything with the remap yet. It's due a service so booked into my local garage to give it a good looking over next week before I do anything.

Not sure about engine comparisons to late 9-3s, much as I've been in a couple I've never driven one. Looking at weight alone I would imagine the 9-3 to be significantly quicker. The 2.0T is certainly capable of pulling the car but it does need keeping in the power band to move it. The thing does weigh 1750kg though. If you're after a more technical comparison then it gets a bit out of field of my expertise. I can tell you that they both have 4 cylinders assuming you're comparing to a B207R. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
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Would be interested in seeing an engine picture.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
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Would be interested in seeing an engine picture.

https://www.saabplanet.com/great-2011-s ... ng-on-ebay

There is a pic in this article.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:04 pm 
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yes Rob, I have found one since.
Your link wont click by the way.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
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Ian78 wrote:
yes Rob, I have found one since.
Your link wont click by the way.


Not via the link, but page is still live if you copy/paste

https://www.saabplanet.com/great-2011-s ... ng-on-ebay

(Fixed the link, just needed to remove the final / )

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
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Not the / at the end, just needed a space after the [quote] brackets :wink:

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Ian78 wrote:
yes Rob, I have found one since.
Your link wont click by the way.


Sorry, should work now? (and in the other post! :D )

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
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Yeah great Rob.
Be good to see it properly without the cover.
Google images doesn't have many pictures.

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 Post subject: Re: NG 9-5, am I nuts?
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Ian78 wrote:
Be good to see it properly without the cover.


Took me a while but I finally remembered!


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