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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:26 am 
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Not sure if this would count as a full on restoration as I don't intend to go crazy here if I can avoid it but as some fairly extensive work will be going on I thought it would be good to document it.

I have owned the car since 2010 and had it parked out in the open since that time at my holiday home in France, so it's essentially an 'outside barn find' :)

I have been documenting the replacement of the windscreen over in the Workshop forum here but will continue it here now I think.

This is how the car looked back in 2010 ....
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0b1f24m5nysgxm/DSC_3365.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fq2452429tq34a8/DSC_3363.jpg?dl=0

and how it looked when I recovered it from France ...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dp2kk6wmj3mguoh/9000%20recovery%20to%20UK%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwcwxnx2pmkiwer/9000%20recovery%20to%20UK%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0

Bodywork still looks good from a distance (apart from the screen surround so I'm hoping most of the work will be mechanical. The suspension is shot and I will need to replace the clutch and brake master cylinder seals as they are both barely functional, the rest will be revealed as we go on.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:04 pm 
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That is a seriously lovely looking 9000! Well worth saving!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:58 am 
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That is a seriously lovely looking 9000! Well worth saving!


Thanks Brooklands, lets hope I don't destroy it with my rubbish welding !! (pictures to follow later today hopefully).

How is yours coming along now, MOT sorted now ??

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:46 am 
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Made some progress yesterday and today with the windscreen, my welding are skills are virtually non-existent with metal this thin, I blew a lot of holes in the surrounding metalwork, and in the new pieces of steel I fabricated.

Still, the end result is new metal where there was only rust, more or less welded in place, I will finish off with filler to make it look nice.

Here are some before and after shots :

Before :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/stqego5jww6jgx3/IMG_6025.HEIC?dl=0

After
https://www.dropbox.com/s/34dvxhg0lfny7af/9000%20windsceeen%20progress%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0

this is four separate pieces partially welded in, I will need to remove the bonnet for access to weld the front part, it's just tacked in at the moment.

This is how the screen surround is made up, there are two panels which are seam welded together culminating in the edge of the screen, in the following photo I am grinding off the top layer of the flat bit (normally joined onto the u-shaped panel at the front) which sits above the other panel which forms part of the front/passenger shell. I am going to plug weld a flat panel onto that, then make up and weld on a new u-shaped bit.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yc5jf3ttnikr456/9000%20windsceeen%20progress%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:07 pm 
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brooklands wrote:
That is a seriously lovely looking 9000! Well worth saving!


Thanks Brooklands, lets hope I don't destroy it with my rubbish welding !! (pictures to follow later today hopefully).

How is yours coming along now, MOT sorted now ??


Ah you'll be grand!

I have been collecting the needed parts, and so I hope to (finally) have her back on the road. I saw it's twin (on a S plate) on the way home (can't remember the last time I saw an other 9000 in the wild.....It's a sign (I hope)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:03 pm 
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brooklands wrote:
masonmjs wrote:
brooklands wrote:
That is a seriously lovely looking 9000! Well worth saving!


Thanks Brooklands, lets hope I don't destroy it with my rubbish welding !! (pictures to follow later today hopefully).

How is yours coming along now, MOT sorted now ??


Ah you'll be grand!

I have been collecting the needed parts, and so I hope to (finally) have her back on the road. I saw it's twin (on a S plate) on the way home (can't remember the last time I saw an other 9000 in the wild.....It's a sign (I hope)


9000's seem to be few and far between these days, I have not seen one on the road for quite some time now, I can't wait myself, it is 10 years since I drove this car properly, all I can remember is coming off the Dundee to Perth trunk road onto the bypass heading for Glasgow, I changed down to 3rd and gave it some welly, I promptly forgot to change up and found myself doing 90 in 3rd :D the car was loving it !!.

There is an old guy on the estate we live on in Thailand who has a gorgeous black one, I think it's an Aero, that he polishes 3 or 4 times a week, I offered to swap my 9-5 for it but he just laughed at me :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:31 pm 
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A bit more progress today as the rain held off for a few hours ....

I'm on to the last of the three really bad areas of the windscreen surround now and it's the worst of the lot, this area curves in three directions at once and is a pig to make new repair patches for.

I cut out quite a bit of metal as it would not have welded anyway, as it is I may need to cut more out but I was trying to keep something there as a pattern for there shape.

As it was before ....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwl66gak1zud93x/9000%20Windscreen%20Repair%20-%203.jpg?dl=0

Rust cut out ...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4lp3xsurfgcqvo/Windscreen%20surround%20-%203.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4y3615btl43rmmf/Windscreen%20surround%20-%205.jpeg?dl=0

The first small piece ready to plug weld in, lots of plug welds to keep it strong and well connected.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qznzsfl1am9sh8g/Windscreen%20surround%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xncpq5ydhwdg9ay/Windscreen%20surround%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0


More to follow when I have time ....

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:00 pm 
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Good to see another 9000 being saved!
They hide it so well, I've an amethyst one in the shed that looks lovely but a wee bit of discoloration in a bottom corner of the window tells me otherwise...
Looking forward to the next installment

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:05 pm 
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Good work, but more of a thread for 'Your Cars' than a Major Restoration at this stage, so moved to your cars.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:34 am 
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ianlaw wrote:
Good to see another 9000 being saved!
They hide it so well, I've an amethyst one in the shed that looks lovely but a wee bit of discoloration in a bottom corner of the window tells me otherwise...
Looking forward to the next installment


Yes indeed Ian, I had no idea there was any rust till I removed the plastic trim at the front.

I wish I had your facilities here, it would be so nice to not have to cover the car up every night (and several times a day when it rains) after work. I'm on the last corner now which is the worst one, and I need to remove the bonnet to get at the engine side of these panels to weld them, not looking forward to that as the metal is thinnest there.

Welding is turning out to be a bit harder than I imagined it would be, but immensely satisfying when it goes well. Looking forward to having a nice solid screen surround at the end, it won't be pretty but it will be solid for as few more years with any luck.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:48 pm 
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A bit more progress today, lovely day outside so decided to bash on with the filling and sanding now that the welding is done for this area.

It's never going to be perfect that's for sure but I think it shows promise that it will blend in reasonably well once all the plastic is back on, this is Bilt Hamber Electrox zinc rich primer, it's pretty thick stuff so I am hoping it blend in some of the blemishes in my finish.

Passenger side before and after :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwl66gak1zud93x/9000%20Windscreen%20Repair%20-%203.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qznzsfl1am9sh8g/Windscreen%20surround%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgl3vj6sfhyrw8t/Sand%20and%20prime%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0

Centre section

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ejs9dlvzsrtw7oz/9000%20Windscreen%20Repair%20-%208.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yc5jf3ttnikr456/9000%20windsceeen%20progress%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p25ll3h3shmofav/Windscreen%20surround%20filling%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqb2jgab9jfla1g/Sand%20and%20prime%20-%204.jpeg?dl=0

Drivers side
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mh21ppxgs2yukht/9000%20Windscreen%20Repair%20-%201.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/34dvxhg0lfny7af/9000%20windsceeen%20progress%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kby1fncemx5mdpk/Sand%20and%20prime%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yisea0q3nvkda9/Sand%20and%20prime%20-%203%20%281%29.jpeg?dl=0

Now that I see the last photo of the drivers side I can see that it needs more work, shape is not as bad as it looks here but it is noticeable so will get more sanding, these corners are a nightmare, so many angles.

Overall effect is not bad though :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/35wx9h5ovygtuu1/9000%20Windscreen%20Repair%20-%2010.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng8wpbbgpta81ou/Sand%20and%20prime%20-%201%20%281%29.jpeg?dl=0

Apologies for all the links and photos but we like those right ?? :corn:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:46 am 
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Not progressed this any further windscreen wise as I was waiting for paint to arrive, it's here now so I might paint some of it today weather permitting. Got the paint from Refinish Systems in Bristol for a reason that escapes me now (maybe price), but they look OK so will give it it a try and report back, link to their website :

https://refinishsystems.com

Finally removed the front bumper and spoilers to repair said spoiler which I broke getting it ready for the tow vehicle. It's still amazingly good at the front, almost no sign of rust anywhere except the suspension and brake parts :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/djd9vqdemyj0zhs/Front%20end%20minus%20bumper%20-%201.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cfzu8kc7642n6e8/Front%20end%20minus%20bumper%20-%202.jpeg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/csok8iz596hzsg1/Front%20end%20minus%20bumper%20-%203.jpeg?dl=0

Had lots of fun disassembling the bumper to get at the remains of the jack nuts for the spoiler. Today I am going to have a go at repairing the spoiler (photos to follow when it's light) and replacing all of the rusty jack nuts on the spoiler and underbody panels, it's great to get those replaced, obviously necessary if I ever need to get access to anything under the front of the car. It will be nice to see all of this back on the car as it is getting difficult to store all of the bits inside the car that I have taken off it (all nicely cleaned obviously).

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:04 pm 
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Gave the surround a coat of topcoat today to see how it looked (I will post photos later on) and I would say it is looking a lot better now :)

I tried the plastic trim back on and was happy to see that it hides nearly everything anyway, so it is probably just peace of mind to get it looking good.

On a completely different note, I just ordered a bunch of new coolant hoses and clips from this bunch :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-For-SAAB-9000-B204-B234-2-0-2-3-AERO-Coolant-Silicone-Radiator-Piping-91-98/163787922993?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 as they appear to be cheapest on the bay at present and UK based.

Also bought some flushing agent, some new anti-freeze and a new thermostat to complete the set, so I will be draining and flushing the coolant, followed by refilling with new stuff and changing all the hoses for new. I was tempted by the red hoses but went for black in the end :).

Next job will be the clutch and brake fluid which is 10 years old and had leaked somewhere leading to both pedals not really doing anything for most of their travel. I topped up the reservoir for now to see if I can get away with a bleed and fluid replenishment but have a master cylinder repair kit for each if I don't (get away with it).

Onwards and upwards

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:44 pm 
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You say you’re struggling with welding, well I reckon you’re doing great.
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Definitely get different clamps. I have the same hoses (which are great) but the clamps are very poor. I ordered the Do88 ones from Parts for Saabs

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:08 am 
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You say you’re struggling with welding, well I reckon you’re doing great.
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Thats very kind of you to say Chris but you didn't see it before I filled it :) (and thank God for angle grinders), the main difficulty seems to be getting it tacked on without blowing holes in it :wall: .... still I am pleased enough with the end result and most of it is hidden anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:09 am 
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Definitely get different clamps. I have the same hoses (which are great) but the clamps are very poor. I ordered the Do88 ones from Parts for Saabs


Thanks Mark, I'll have a look at them and the Do88 ones from PFS.

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Excellent work, great to see a 9000 being saved. I have a midnight blue 96 Aero that's been sitting since 2012, slowly getting worse & definitely needing extensive restoration. Screen corners have gone milky too, so I suspect the surround is shot. It's in the queue of cars to get restored.

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Excellent work, great to see a 9000 being saved. I have a midnight blue 96 Aero that's been sitting since 2012, slowly getting worse & definitely needing extensive restoration. Screen corners have gone milky too, so I suspect the surround is shot. It's in the queue of cars to get restored.


Thanks for the encouragement, I am envious of your Aero though, that's really the only part of this car that disappoints me, still I am getting on a bit so a well fettled 2.0L LPT Anni is probably more appropriate for me anyway.

I am enjoying the process a lot though, it feels good to restore something to it's former glory with just hard work and a few new parts. Really happy I bought the welding kit too as all old cars need some welding somewhere and it's not always easy to find a welder when you want one.

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Thanks for the encouragement, I am envious of your Aero though, that's really the only part of this car that disappoints me, still I am getting on a bit so a well fettled 2.0L LPT Anni is probably more appropriate for me anyway.

My previous 9000 was a 2.0 CSE, came without an intercooler but with the APC. Loved that car. Fitted an intercooler, Abbott stainless exhaust, and stage 3 remap. That thing could eat most cars in the midrange, our neighbour had a bug eyed Impreza WRC at the time, and I gave him a fright on more than one occasion. To be honest I preferred that car to the Aero. The wingbacks and long legged gearing make the Aero a superb long distance car, but mine has given me no end of problems, hence why it's parked up. Engine is still sweet though. Had quite a few enquiries over the years for the engine from Vauxhall boys, but I'd sooner restore it when the time comes.

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