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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:25 pm 
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scanditurbo wrote:
looks good and the right colour bet its toasty in this heat

Not that keen on black wheels on a black car.
dont buy a black car then :D then dont put black wheels on it :D


Yeh it's like an oven. Air con is broken as well, not sure if it's much of a big job to fix.

In other news..

Ditched the old cassette head unit, and we now have Bluetooth!

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Speakers not bad but may upgrade.

These things are so chilled to drive, and saw off a Range Rover Sport Supercharged earlier, he was not amused!

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Brand new headlights looking fresh:

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Off to investigate downpipe installation tomorrow, watch this space!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:34 pm 
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Turns out downpipe was a pig of a job, very little clearance room due to water pump.

Downpipe is now on but oil is leaking from the turbo oil feed, so have ordered this:

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Do it right do it once as they say.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:19 pm 
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Are those for the oil feeds just to the turbo?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:43 pm 
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guffers158 wrote:
Are those for the oil feeds just to the turbo?


The kit includes:

1 x Oil feed line kit with both banjo bolt kit
1 x Water feed line kit with banjo bolt kit on both end
1 x Water Return Line kit with Banjo bolt kit on both end

Might as well replace the lot while down there do you reckon?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:52 pm 
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Looking good, :)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:59 am 
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Ian78 wrote:
Looking good, :)


Thanks :D

Downpipe now installed along with new turbo oil feed (was leaking a little).

Drives beautifully but the fuel gauge is all over the place. 30 litres in the tank and it's showing 20 odd miles, after a while it increases and then stays at 40ish miles. Could also do with a new dash display bulb. Sometimes the mile readout turns off completely so perhaps needs some under dash surgery.

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Other than that I now have all the hardware required for Stage 3 and T7 conversion :twisted:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:17 am 
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dry solder joint most likely dash issue especially on a black one
reflow the big red and orange headlight relays too when you have a solder iron handy
there in the box between battery and headlight
bit of a faff to get the dash pod out but doable just be gentle

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:44 pm 
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I have been following this thread with great interest, it's nice to hear that good 9000's are still out there. I am particularly interested to hear what other members are saying about rust. My Amethyst Aero has rust in the inner rear arches and I was interested to hear that the rear suspension rear turrets could be a problem. Could this be the cause of a rattle I have from the rear, which I thought might be the rear shock absorber rubbers? I am on the look out for larger turbo options, if anyone can help.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:14 pm 
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I have been following this thread with great interest, it's nice to hear that good 9000's are still out there. I am particularly interested to hear what other members are saying about rust. My Amethyst Aero has rust in the inner rear arches and I was interested to hear that the rear suspension rear turrets could be a problem. Could this be the cause of a rattle I have from the rear, which I thought might be the rear shock absorber rubbers? I am on the look out for larger turbo options, if anyone can help.


Not sure what could be causing the rattle perhaps it could be the suspension itself rather than the chassis?

I've considered a larger turbo but it's just so much work, so I've got a stage 3 map booked in and plan to leave it at that, so the car will have cost me £2k all in.

If you do want a bigger turbo it depends on your target bhp.

It is possible to have well over 400/500 bhp and still retain driveability, but you'll be chewing through gearboxes.

If I was to ever go big turbo I'd be looking at:

Turbo, Holset HY35: £500
Custom manifold, intake pipe, downpipe and exhaust: £1000
Uprated clutch: £400
Uprated injectors: £200
Wastegate and Actuator: £200
Intercooler £300
Mapping: £200, more with live mapping
Uprated air intake: £70

And you'd probably want an LSD but I wouldn't bother I'd just get a load of old stock gearboxes ready to swap over if any go bang.
Probably looking at another £1000 for uprated brakes and suspension.

All the above doesn't even include labour.

So for the engine alone, £2870 plus the cost of the car so with the above I'd be knocking on £5k all in. Tempting I guess but I'm sure stage 3 will be fun enough and will still be able to enjoy full throttle in 2nd.

For me, any more than 300 bhp and as much as I loved driving Faero's car until it broke (and my old 19t 9-5), I feel an M135i with a remap would be a much better big power car all things considered.

But then I watch this and it's so tempting :twisted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU6mKshHTpo

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:25 am 
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To be honest there are literally loads of much better big power cars, but that doesn't always make them more interesting/entertaining/likeable.

It's certainly a thought that's crossed my mind though regarding my ownership of 9000s, there are a good few compromises to accept and sometimes I'm not sure I'm still happy to accept questionable handling, braking and gearboxes. But like an old family pet I can't let go of them.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:28 pm 
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To be honest there are literally loads of much better big power cars, but that doesn't always make them more interesting/entertaining/likeable.

It's certainly a thought that's crossed my mind though regarding my ownership of 9000s, there are a good few compromises to accept and sometimes I'm not sure I'm still happy to accept questionable handling, braking and gearboxes. But like an old family pet I can't let go of them.

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Oh absolutely, these things have so much character and there's really nothing else out there like them.

Booked in for wheel alignment and to fit 2 of the new tyres to front, that came with the car (3 pairs!).

Other than that, just using it as a daily and chucked a full tank in so will see what the real world mpg is like.

It's such an antidote to spending a year buzzing around in the Clio 172, it's so refined and I find myself cruising at the speed limit rather than driving with flagrant disregard as per the Clio.

Treated to its first proper wash and like the Clio it scrubs up really well:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:17 am 
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Been in for wheel alignment and turns out it really needed doing.

Front tyres were an advisory (not illegal though) so went to get them replaced but the wheel nuts are jammed. Not sure what to do here I mean it's fine for now but perhaps it's a good excuse to refresh the brakes all round and perhaps new nuts.

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While on ramp I had a good look at the recently installed downpipe and reducer.

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In other news, a bit of WD40 has sorted the heater rattle and clutch squeak. Happy days!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:52 am 
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Last week:

Well I nipped into my local Saab specialist to get some minor tweaks fixed on Tech2, such as the annoying horn beep on locking and double beep on unlocking the boot, and the drivebelt/tensioner snapped just as I was pulling in. Pretty lucky place to break down to be fair, got to count your blessings! This was one job the previous owner definitely had done, turns out a screw wasn't in properly, so it's back in for that to be done now. Back on my bike!

This week:

9k is back on the road and running lovely, although the specialist was unable to remove the annoying beeps :cry:

Had an air con regas while new air compressor and belt fitted, and on a recent test managed 24 mpg with purely urban driving.

Took it on a big run to a work meeting and it returned around 34 mpg over 400 miles from a tank.

On the way back I nipped via JulesHT, who converted the T5 to T7 APC and added Stage 3 mapping. Christ it's fast now! Should be roughly 290 bhp 324 lb ft, and the old APC must've been knackered as it feels like it's got twice the power! Great work Jules you sir are a genius!

Initially the idle was poor/non existent but that was down to adaptation and it's now nice and smooth. Only other issue is that under full throttle it experienced fuel cut a couple of times which was a bit violent and unexpected. This may 'adapt out' but if not I will need a minor tweak to the ECU to change the fuel cut limit.

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So in general it's running really well and now has a decent turn of speed, well a better power to weight and torque to weight ratio than an M135i and less drivetrain loss as it's front wheel drive, so it really does go like the proverbial.

Going forward I plan to sort the rust advisory, fit new brakes and pads and find out why the steering wheel starts shaking above 9 leptons and the bonnet starts shaking above 12.

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Also on the lookout for some Bilstein dampers to complement the Abbott Racing springs.

And if anyone is interested in swapping these Super Aeros for some Pro Race 1.2 or OZs in black or gunmetal I'd be interested.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:18 pm 
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Nice job!great car!


Thanks, greatly appreciated!

Thanks to Jules' advice I've fixed the overboost fuel cut issue by drilling the C port on the T7 APC to 2mm.

Stage 3 is a massive hoot and really can't complain, it just feels so sorted now and can really wind up some much more expensive cars.

I recently stumbled upon the Holset HE221W, which fits the stock location and is the 'Ultimate Evolution' of the TD04:

http://www.stavtech.co.uk/home/stavs-tech-tips-the-holset-he221w-360bhp-capable-and-fast-spooling-turbo-can-be-easily-fitted-to-standard-subaru-volvo-and-saab-exhaust-manifolds-and-downpipes?fbclid=IwAR2RbRjr_Yp_wsgDwDwaTt8Mh2L5N3e_ABYDn90fOKgw3dQA_NGD9P8zi3I

Which means the following should get me to around 380 bhp:

Holset HE221W £510
Intercooler £80
Dekka 630 Injectors £180
Map Sensor £30
3" Exhaust to fit current 3" Downpipe £300ish
Big intake - not sure if required
Uprated clutch - probably required
Walbro 255 LPH fuel pump £60
Mapping - £100ish?
Cone filter - any recommendations?

So around £1200 after selling replaced parts could take it from 290 to 380 bhp, sounds ok to me :P

Something for next year anyway but nice to know how easily all that extra performance can be added.

In the meantime though plan is to just use it as is and so more mundane stuff like chassis mods and see to rust advisory.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:18 pm 
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Not a great month; power steering, air compressor, fuel pump, battery and alternator all went in the space of a few weeks.

Back on the road now though and running sweet. Having bought it for £1100, it now stands me around £3500 with all the modifications and fixes, so if I can get £2500 for it after 12 months' usage that'll be cheap motoring in my book.

Collecting these Team Dynamics wheels soon so the Super Aeros will be for sale.

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Those MAMBA hoses are worth having made up to replace the autotransmission pipes to the cooler/radiator as eventually the metal pipes go on them.
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