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 Post subject: Saab 9-5 Aero estate.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:00 pm 
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Car Model: 9-3 Aero-Abbott fettled
Greetings all!

It is fair to say that the motoring Gods have not been kind in recent times...........

First there was the strange knocking from the passenger wheel on my much-loved 9-3 Aero that was wrongly diagnosed as being a fault with the gearbox that ended like this........


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Luckily it happened at low speed and I was the only person in the car and no one else was involved. I unable to comment on this too much further at this time........But I am very happy to say that the boys at Abbotts were incredible, scraping the car off the road and giving a lend of a car to get home!

So this left with me a problem.....I needed a car so I went and got this (pictures from the ad on Carandclassic);

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Here is a little from the ad

For sale is my great looking Saab 95 Estate, in the very rare and distinctive Laser Red colour... Completely standard, no modifications with the 230/250bhp 2,300cc High Output Turbo HOT engine. Reliable 5 speed manual gearbox, NOT AUTO GEARBOX... Recent battery, clutch, oil, air filter, belt idler and belt... Had fuel system terracleaned as well... Recent rear Bilstein yellow shocks and exhaust system. Aero Hammerhead alloys with matching Michelin tyres all round. 146,000 miles with service book and many invoices (all parts listed above has invoices). MOT'd and taxed (tax not transferrable of course)... Black leather interior with heated front seats that work lovely! Grey trim and carpets, with matching carpet mat set. Rear load cover present and correct, nice and tidy interior, definitely not a pet-mobile!... All the displays work, no missing pixels, factory 10cd changer in the boot and single cd/radio etc factory hifi in the car too. Remote central locking, electric windows etc.

It was listed at £795 - but after sending a few emails back and forth the seller said that I could have it for £500 as it had a 'blow from the exhaust manifold'........which it certainly did have! But I struck a deal there and then and drove it home from Northants. It went like a scalded car - easily the fastest Saab I have ever owned.

Upon returning home it was clear that 'there is a car in there' - but it needed it be booked in to Leelac to do the following;

1. Sump drop
2. And repair of the manifold

When I got to Leelac's place last Tuesday I was greeted by Dawid and his wife telling me that the engine was knocking.......not what I wanted to hear....But I waited while Dawid dropped the sump and nothing was found. Fast-forward to today and I have her back - all is good! Leelac dropped the sump and replaced the exhaust manifold gasket (finding 3 broken studs along the way.....which explained the 'knocking engine fears'......phew!) all done for £350! Definite result!

So what are the plans in particular order

1. Get the bonnet resprayed (really horrible.....)
2. Silicone hose kit
3. Source a rear spoiler
4. Karl remap
5. Air con needs attention....
6. Source and fit replacement inner wheel arch..........see my wanted ad for an explanation......

Pretty pleased with her and even Mrs B loves her - she is a pretty girl!


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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
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Nice 8)


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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
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Nice 8)


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Why thank you very much sir!

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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
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Looks fine! :)

But it really needs a 3 inch downpipe and spot cat and a bigger intercooler before you see Karl!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:45 pm 
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Looks fine! :)

But it really needs a 3 inch downpipe and spot cat and a bigger intercooler before you see Karl!! :D


:lol: :lol: :lol: It's meant to be a cheapo!

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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
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a spot cat? i think cats protection league might have something to say about that!!

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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
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a spot cat? i think cats protection league might have something to say about that!!

If you want it to go like a scalded cat...

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 Post subject: Re: The big red bus!
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ghost_walker wrote:
a spot cat? i think cats protection league might have something to say about that!!

If you want it to go like a scalded cat...


thats is true and i doubt the 1.9 diesel van loaded down with the small rodent exterminators, sorry cats will keep up with you!!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:40 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:19 am 
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I like them in laser red. My old 9-3 was that colour, and it cleaned up very nice. Seems like a good price for a manual Aero wagon too. I think they look great on hammerheads. Iv'e still got some of the later facelift Aero wheels laying about from my old 9-5 after I broke it. Might have the odd spare bit too.

I thoroughly recommend Karl for the remap too, and while you're there, you might as well go stage 3, be rude not to. Mine pulled like a train, could definitely feel more torque than in my 9000.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:05 am 
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Car Model: 9-3 Aero-Abbott fettled
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Same name as my Arc.


Indeed - it's colour is what first attracted me to her - sooooooo many silver ones out there and having a red one certainly makes it stand out! Mind you it does need some 'Brooklands-style' attention to the paintwork - plenty of swirls and light scratches which will come out.......but the 'orrible attempts by one of the previous owners to fill the stone chips is going to need more professional help!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:07 am 
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I like them in laser red. My old 9-3 was that colour, and it cleaned up very nice. Seems like a good price for a manual Aero wagon too. I think they look great on hammerheads. Iv'e still got some of the later facelift Aero wheels laying about from my old 9-5 after I broke it. Might have the odd spare bit too.

I thoroughly recommend Karl for the remap too, and while you're there, you might as well go stage 3, be rude not to. Mine pulled like a train, could definitely feel more torque than in my 9000.


Yeah price wise, I am pretty happy! Remap wise, to be honest it does seem pretty rapid in standard form, so it makes me wonder how a stage and beyond must go like!

On the acceleration front it does mis-fire slightly under load - any ideas?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:09 am 
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I'd look at plugs first as they are the cheapest, then work your way through boost leak, DI, CPS, APC.

Are you using high octane petrol? The 9000 will run off of greasy rag, the 9-5 prefers the good stuff and can pull back boost if it detects knock.

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I'd look at plugs first as they are the cheapest, then work your way through boost leak, DI, CPS, APC.

Are you using high octane petrol? The 9000 will run off of greasy rag, the 9-5 prefers the good stuff and can pull back boost if it detects knock.



Cheers!

I know what you mean about Super unleaded and 9-5s - our old '04 one was just the same!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:37 pm 
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Car Model: 9-3 Aero-Abbott fettled
So I would really like a roof spoiler for the bus.

Does anyone have any experience of anything like these overseas 'replicas'

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-9-5-95-E ... Swu1VW7ZLs

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:58 pm 
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There are a few threads on these and another similar one that is from Poland I think. Fitting seems to be not as straightforward as one might hope with bolts being too long. Do a search on google, cannot remember exactly where I found said threads.

Nice wagon, I love a 9-5 Wagon and red is distinctive (still miss my Chilli Red Aero :( ) but my grey one is coming along nicely.

As to misfire - mine is not running as it should, feels way down on power and it looks to be DI related so a new one is sitting to be fitted. I have a new APC valve in there and always fill with high Octane fuel too. Hopefully yours will be a manky spark plug......


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:04 am 
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There are a few threads on these and another similar one that is from Poland I think. Fitting seems to be not as straightforward as one might hope with bolts being too long. Do a search on google, cannot remember exactly where I found said threads.

Nice wagon, I love a 9-5 Wagon and red is distinctive (still miss my Chilli Red Aero :( ) but my grey one is coming along nicely.

As to misfire - mine is not running as it should, feels way down on power and it looks to be DI related so a new one is sitting to be fitted. I have a new APC valve in there and always fill with high Octane fuel too. Hopefully yours will be a manky spark plug......



Many thanks for this! In terms of the spoiler - I see what you mean about the overseas spoilers. I think I will hold out for a genuine one!

I am in the process of breaking my 'dead' 9-3 Aero - so I will take the DI and APC of that and transfer them over. The misfire only occurs when going from 60-70 otherwise it runs perfectly.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:09 am 
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Car Model: 9-3 Aero-Abbott fettled
There are quite a few little features this '00 model has, that our '04 9-5 didn't.

There is this strange locking mechanism on the hatch;

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A child lock on the leading edge of the hatch........strange place for one.......

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An external lock on the hatch (with a cover) - just a blank on later models;

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There is also tray below the floor of the boot;

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And these useful little pockets in the base of the B pillars;

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These little features being deleted in later models are very clear evidence of the GM bean-counters at work......

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:14 am 
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A strange thing I have noticed, is that sometimes, once the car has warmed up (fine when it is cold), it can be a little tricky to get it out of 4th gear. It goes in a treat - as do all gears do. Do we think a change of gearbox oil maybe the way forward?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:21 pm 
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Car Model: 9-3 Aero-Abbott fettled
So I managed to grab an hour or so to give the old girl her first quick detail in my ownership.

I used the following,

1. Megs Gold class shampoo 2BM wash
2. All over compound using Megs Ultimate compound
3. 1 coat of PB Black Hole glaze
4. 1 coat of AG HD wax
5. Quick spritz of FK #425
6. AG glass polish
7. Tyres and plastics dressed with AG bumper gel

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Came up pretty well!

So a couple of things to address are,

1. The bonnet has the worst attempts to sort stone chips I have ever seen

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2. I need to get this little panel sorted too - I have seen on the bay another '00 9-5 estate in Laser red being broken so hopefully I can strike a deal for the one on there.

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3. The back bumper is quite grotty too - again maybe the one being broken on the bay may provide a better one.........

If anyone knows of or sees another Laser red 9-5 estate being broken, please let me know!

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