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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:00 pm 
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When did they get so expensive??


From the amount of sets produced subtract those that have been scrapped with cars and through damage.
Then subtract those that are now fitted to C900's and non Aero 9000's = not that many left.
Demand is greater than availability so prices rise.


That makes sense.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:01 pm 
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mossypossy wrote:
I have those wheels.
If I upgrade to 4 pot calipers you can have my open lug Aeros for whatever it will cost me to get some 17 inch Azevs.
Will not be until Autumn though.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:31 am 
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I have those wheels.
If I upgrade to 4 pot calipers you can have my open lug Aeros for whatever it will cost me to get some 17 inch Azevs.
Will not be until Autumn though.



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Sounds like a bargain, well it would be if those Azev 17's were cheaper than the Aero's :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:26 am 
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Espin99 wrote:
brooklands wrote:
mossypossy wrote:
I have those wheels.
If I upgrade to 4 pot calipers you can have my open lug Aeros for whatever it will cost me to get some 17 inch Azevs.
Will not be until Autumn though.



Cheers!



Sounds like a bargain, well it would be if those Azev 17's were cheaper than the Aero's :lol:


Well that is also a good point..........

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:50 pm 
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Greetings all!

Just a little update.

Some of you guys on here will know what I say when you sometimes feel like only you appreciate your Saab. Most notably (and most frequently) I have 'discussions' with my better half about how I much prefer my 9000 to her XC90. So imagine my delight when last night I pick up our 2 16 year old Italian students (we do a LOT of hosting overseas students) and when they get in the back they both comment on 'how lovely and comfortable' my car is. Genuinely made me week. On the journey home I go to the petrol station and whilst paying the cashier comments, 'what a lovely car - you don't see many of those any more and not ones as nice as that'. Genuinely I drove home with a grin, ear to ear!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:12 am 
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Greetings!

I went to take my son to training last night and on the way the 9000 seemed to have a loss of power and then the following symptoms;

1. Misfire
2. Loss of coolant - not all but is now hovering just above the minimum
3. Blue and white smoke when running
4. Rad light goes out when I re-start having released the header tank cap
5. Did re-start and run fine for literally 100 meters ad then started misfiring again
6. No mayo on the dipstick, but when I first parked up there was steam/smoke from around the dipstick

Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:25 pm 
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So quick update on this one;

Car is being taken to Andy Boorman's place tomorrow to be firstly properly diagnosed (although I am pretty sure it is the head gasket) and then whatever it needs it will get done.

As it is pretty much the holidays, I have told him not to hurry as it usually doesn't get a lot of use at this time of year, so any further updates might not be for a while.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:52 am 
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Greetings all!

I heard back from Andy - definitely a blown head gasket......... :(

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:53 pm 
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be positive it should never need doing again

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:02 am 
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How's this going Brooklands? We had the same issues to a lesser extent on ours a couple of years ago which was the head gasket. Yes a pain and a bit of an expense but it's just one of those things. The positive is I expect when they remove the head they'll comment om how perfect the bores still are, as per B2X4.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:53 am 
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Greetings all!

The old girl is back and fixed!

As it happened just before the end of term, I had the car transported to Andy Boorman's place and asked him to properly diagnose the issue and then leave it for a few weeks as I wasn't going to need it over the holidays.

Once Andy took the head off it was obvious that it was the head gasket and there were some other issues. Firsty there were a couple of broken manifold studs (which had to be drilled out), broken air filter housing (which was no longer held properly in position, some perished vac hoses and the battery had finally died. So all now back together and running nicely. Strangely I am still a little nervous of the car - driving the car rather gently (not wanting to push it). The battery was clearly on the way out and was the reason for some rather laboured starting that had been a feature for quite some time.

To celebrate me and my eldest spent some time cleaning her up (she was in quite state having spent about a month under a weeping willow tree at Andy's) and attended our first East Coast retros meet at Shotley (definitely going again - what a great selection of cars!)

Image20190821_193202[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_203747[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

A couple from the night of mine (yes I noticed one of my registration plate lights is out.....)

Here are some of the other cars from the night - some real crackers!

Image20190821_195415[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_200542[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_195600[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_200405[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_200749[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_200701[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_202248[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_201107[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

Image20190821_195205[1] by Mark Blewitt, on Flickr

In other news - I managed to scag the matching leather Aero door cards (from the same seller as my bargainous Aero seats) - for £5! They will need a deep clean and feed, but will make a lovely addition!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9000-Ae ... 3785843573

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:08 am 
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So MOT time now beckons and again (as with last year) I have the ABS light on again! More than likely it is a knackered sensor. I replaced the offending item with a used item last year, what is the betting it is that one that has failed again?

With the door panels, how tricky to swap over?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am 
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not too tricky mate ive never broke one before

just make sure youve got all the fixings out first

youll be amazed at the crud under the door top outside trim if youve never had it off before
you dont need to remove the outer to do the doorcards by the way

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:26 pm 
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Just heard back from garage - MOT failed.

Needs two headlights

2 Tyres

ABS fault - they cannot read the fault (prob faulty sensor, but will need TECH II read it)

Problem with rear caliper.

All in all a terrible result. Starting to wonder if I should have scrapped at when the H/G went.

Any thoughts on how proceed - costs etc gratefully received. I have potentially got a bill here that I cannot really afford to pay.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:03 pm 
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brooklands wrote:
Just heard back from garage - MOT failed.

Needs to headlights

2 Tyres

ABS fault - they cannot read the fault (prob faulty sensor, but will need TECH II read it)

Problem with rear caliper.

All in all a terrible result. Starting to wonder if I should have scrapped at when the H/G went.

Any thoughts on how proceed - costs etc gratefully received. I have potentially got a bill here that I cannot really afford to pay.


What? To me that's not an awful result. A pain yes, but absolutely nothing insurmountable.

Headlights - yes, standard 9k issue. Give £200 to Bill and you won't have to worry about it for another 10 years.

Tyres is tyres. Give or take £100 should get you a reasonably decent pair fitted I think.

ABS sensor - go to a friendly UKS member with a Tech 2 so you know which one. Might take a bit of hunting to find one depending on which corner, maybe £50 for a second hand sensor. Might be able to get new for £1-200.

Calipers are simple and cheap to service or rebuild.

All in all a few hundred and a weekend's work, and best of all you'll still have a 9000. I'm not saying it's an insignificant amount of money and it would certainly make me inhale sharply, in fact my last 9k MOT wasn't too different, but the alternative is the hassle and expense of buying another unknown old car and wasted money and effort spent on the HG and car so far.

Also remember, you got yourself back in the seat of a 9000 for a reason. Rough with the smooth.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:57 pm 
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Yeah. Pull yourself together man!
Not like you had this to contend with.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:50 pm 
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have you had the headlights out before mark

the side bolts are known for just spinning around and around and not coming
the brass bit in the headlight box is round and has ptfe type tape round so round and spins round

ive drilled a little hole in the headlight box and then put penetrating lube down the hole for a week or so then some gentle taps etc get it moving
hamfisting works too as you have to glue it back in anyway afterwards but it will bend the thin metal a bit
look at some modern cars mot fails mark youll feel better then mate

not terminal the car still lives dead bits that come off phew
least youll be able to see and do good handbrake turns
850 vlovos use the same caliper i think but double tripple check matey with a a volvo person first

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 am 
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What? To me that's not an awful result. A pain yes, but absolutely nothing insurmountable.



What he said ^^^.

Running older cars means you have to dig deep into your pockets once in a while.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:07 am 
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What? To me that's not an awful result. A pain yes, but absolutely nothing insurmountable.



What he said ^^^.

Running older cars means you have to dig deep into your pockets once in a while.


Well. Whilst I agree, you need to take into consideration that I have just spent a significant amount of money on the car repairing the Head gasket. It should also be noted that whilst it was with the garage I asked for the car to be checked over in order to determine whether or not there were any more issues awaiting, because with the costs involved with the H/G (and other needed repairs) and the MOT repairs, had I been aware, I wouldn't have bothered. I am not a fool and I do appreciate that running a car (any car) will cost me money, but as I am not (in any way) a wealthy person I do need to be careful.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:07 pm 
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Mark, nobody is calling you a fool, its just well known that you have short arms and long pockets :wink:
Joking aside, only a fool is not careful with their money.

We recently had to pay out a bit on the managements car to get it through the MOT, second year in a row that its needed a couple of hundred pounds spending on it.
It needed a couple of tyres and a replacement driving lamp along with a couple of other items this year.
I check the tyres regularly so they were not unexpected, the car was booked in for a service, 2 tyres and an MOT. The driving lamp unit etc... was unexpected.
But the management likes the car and needs it for work, so needs must.

If you had got rid of the 9000 rather than paying out for the HG etc..., I suspect you would have had to pay out far more than the cost of those repairs plus the MOT repairs to find another decent 9000.

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