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 Post subject: 2004 9-5 Replacing SID
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:43 am 
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Yet another question folks, many thanks for your patience.

The + and - buttons on my SID have gone sticky. I've tried cleaning them with all know substances and am forced to conclude the surface of the plastic has been attacked by something.

If it irritates me too much I may replace the SID. Is the SID one of the components that needs divorcing & marrying using Tech II or can I just swap them over?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:55 am 
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It needs divorcing, but the buttons don't.

If you are careful with a small screwdriver you can strip a spare unit down and swap the buttons over.

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SID doesnt need divorcing but you will lose all the saved data it holds. Ive swapped SIDs between cars many times with no hassle. Always worth getting s SID2 (the 5 button one) if you dont already have it as it has some extra features and comes in useful of you have OpenSID.

2 of your best dinner knives, one either side will get SID out quite easily.

SID tip of the day: When you fit SID you need to set the clock. Tune the radio to an RDS enabled station, Radio 2 works particularly well then press and hold the 2 small buttons until RDS RE-TIME displays.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:28 am 
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SID doesnt need divorcing but you will lose all the saved data it holds.


You learn something new every day.

Does it need programming to account for the different final drive and injector options like the 9000 EDU does? Or can it pick up all that data from the ECU and DICE?

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No, all the information comes from the ECU. Fitting a Diesel SID can cause issues though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:09 am 
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Thanks as ever folks for a prompt and very useful set of responses.

So my SID has the two small time change buttons, Set, Clear, +,- and Night Display. Does this make it a four button? What is the extra button the five button ones have? What model year did the five button ones come in on?


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You've got an SID2, they were available on all years. The 5 buttons includes the night-vision button.

The basic versions loose the SET button as they have no programmable features like the speed warning, destination miles/time or alarm clock.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:39 am 
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Aha, thanks Dave.

I don't often sleep in the car so I'm not sure how often I'm going to be using that alarm clock.

(Back in the late eighties I used to sleep in the back of my Dad's 900 when I went to the British GP).


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Are 9-3 and 9-5 SIDs (and SID2s) identical?


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Nope, different shape and connector.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:43 pm 
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Thanks again.


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Guess how I found out...

Should have just looked at a picture on-line really.

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Just beware! SID's changed for the 2004 reg. Not sure EXACTLY when they changed over.

You can easily tell which year SID you have. The displays have a slightly different style font. The newer one is smaller fonts. The buttons are slighly bigger on the newer SID's.

You will have to replace newer with newer. There is at least one of the clever on here that has wired an older SID into a 2004 car.

He is a whizz kid at wiring and such!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:56 am 
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I notice that some of the SID2s on ebay have a solid bar between the Set/ Clear buttons and the +/- buttons. My car does not have this. Is this bar a feature of the older SID2?


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