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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:24 am 
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Car Model: 99GL, Jaguar XF & Fiat 500
Looking for opinions on replacement shocks for the 99.

I'm looking to fit a set of new springs (Lesjöfors 30mm lower than standard) to the 99 at the same time I'm looking to fit new shocks.
Options seem to be Bilstein, Koni's or AVO's.

Any opinions or experience before I commit.

The 99 currently has its orginal springs and shocks which are 35 years young and have covered just short of 60k.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:47 am 
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Does yours have the c900 style rear damper mounts, Mal? If so you have more choice. Yellow Bilsteins are always going to be the best.

Falling that, Sachs sport. Not convinced about Koni or AVO. They're oil based, not gas, and although they are adjustable, that's only on bump not rebound (or possibly the other way around, I forget which).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:07 pm 
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B6's were at the top of the list to be honest. Had not really thought of SACHs.

Just need to find a supplier and price up the options.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:22 pm 
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Got to be Bilsteins Mal! I've tried many in my early days with 96s and 99s but nothing works as well as Bilsteins. Now have them on the 9-3x and the Sonett - handling transformed. :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:39 pm 
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I have a pair of new front Lesjöfors 99 springs going cheap if you are interested?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:45 am 
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Got to be Bilsteins Mal! I've tried many in my early days with 96s and 99s but nothing works as well as Bilsteins. Now have them on the 9-3x and the Sonett - handling transformed. :D


Thanks, I was just wanting to confirm what I already thought :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:46 am 
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AlexW wrote:
I have a pair of new front Lesjöfors 99 springs going cheap if you are interested?


I have recently purchased a full set of Lesjöfors springs, but thanks for the offer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:14 pm 
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I have decided to go with the Bilstein's :D

Just ordered a set of B6's from Martin (Jamsaab).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:18 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:22 pm 
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Powerflex bushes as advised by those in the know, also ordered from Martin :D

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:09 am 
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Hi Alex W
How much are you wanting for the springs?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:12 pm 
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Delivery from Jamsaab this morning :D


Thanks Martin, as always excellent service 8)

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Car Model: C900S LPT Vert, 99 GL, 96 V4,
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Aye, aye Jim. You gotta treat the 99 now and again :D :D

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:05 pm 
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Now you have the replacements fitted, what's the verdict, Mal?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:21 am 
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So far so good Al :D

I have only had chance to take it out briefly on local roads.
Obviously the ride is a lot firmer, but it feels even more assured in the corners with a lot less body roll.


I should be able to give a better appraisal today after the 120 mile round trip to the Redbeck Café meet.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:11 pm 
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After just over 160 miles I love it.

The lack of body roll in the corners is really noticeable, it feels far more planted and confident.

The ride is noticeably firmer but not uncomfortable.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:32 pm 
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This is the sort of thing that reinforces to me why dampers are more important than springs for improving handling. Just uprating the dampers on stock springs makes much more difference than fitting "lowering springs" to standard dampers, especially if those dampers have done inter-stellar mileage and are buggered anyway :wink:

Doing both uprated dampers and stiffer springs, correctly matched, is even better.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:20 pm 
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Totally agree, for instance adjustable Konis properly set up on an OG 9-3 Aero with standard springs not only improves the handling and reduces body roll, they give a more comfortable ride and better straight line stability, only negative is the cost and corrosionwise they are not well protected.
It’s also debatable how much handling improvement in every day use that is achieved from lowering a car certainly with the poor condition of some of the surfaces on roads where the handing could be exploited. I’m addition adjusting the geometry after fitting lowered springs can often be limited, as on again the OG 9-3 for example, so there are also negatives in this area.


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