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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:05 pm 
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What type of oil filter removal tool do you use for C900s? I have three different types and only the one below fits, but it isn't ideal. I use MANN W712/80 filters.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:36 pm 
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I use one of these

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It fits but it sure is tight, works on both MANN filters and Saab OEM (WIX/Filtron i believe?)

I need to use MANN filters (shorter than OEM) to get proper clearance to the upper a-arms due to too many spacers to get decent negative camber 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:14 am 
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My hands!! Seriously, only ever had one filter I couldn't remove by hand, wasn't put on by me - whoever did it must have been a gorilla! Had to hammer a screwdriver through it in the end. If you lube the rubber washer and do them up by hand, not too tight, you shouldn't have a problem.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:57 am 
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joH900 wrote:
I use one of these

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It fits but it sure is tight, works on both MANN filters and Saab OEM (WIX/Filtron i believe?)

I need to use MANN filters (shorter than OEM) to get proper clearance to the upper a-arms due to too many spacers to get decent negative camber 8)


I also use one of these.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:34 am 
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My hands!! Seriously, only ever had one filter I couldn't remove by hand, wasn't put on by me - whoever did it must have been a gorilla! Had to hammer a screwdriver through it in the end. If you lube the rubber washer and do them up by hand, not too tight, you shouldn't have a problem.


Only once have I managed to get one off with my hands, many times I haven't been able to I've done them up too!! They just seem to leak if I don't do them up tight (hand tight, don't use a wrench and oil up the seal well too) Tried wearing rubber gloves for extra grip but to no avail, maybe I've got smaller hands than usual lol.
Biggest pain is actually getting to it though, maybe that's where it goes wrong, always seem easier to do up than undo lol

I've got the chain type and it's rubbish, every car I've had the filter is either a little too big or too small for the wrench to fit well without aload of grief, keep meaning to get another but always spend the money on something else......


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:55 am 
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Toe is right, access is the main issue; I don't see how you there's enough room for joH900 and Espin99' tool. I always do the filters up by hand, but have to undo them with a tool, either something designed for the job or a screwdriver and hammer. I like the cup type tools, but the filters I use don't have flats. Happy to switch to a different type of filter though to accommodate the tool though. Do OEM Saab filters have flats?

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Has anyone used something like this on MANN 712/80 filters?

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The others I have are an antique lever with a chain and one of these:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:18 pm 
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Remove the clip holding the oil filler tube attached to the intake manifold so it can be moved around a little bit (be careful, they are brittle and can snap if you are not careful!) and then remove the intake pipe from the air filter box to the driver side inner fender to get more room.

Should probably not be necessary but that is my usual procedure and i have been using that tool for years on c900. As i said before it sure is tight but there are a couple of angles that the tool fits, final removal is done by hand. I use the tool just to break it loose from the oil filter housing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:10 pm 
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Remove the clip holding the oil filler tube attached to the intake manifold so it can be moved around a little bit (be careful, they are brittle and can snap if you are not careful!) and then remove the intake pipe from the air filter box to the driver side inner fender to get more room.

Should probably not be necessary but that is my usual procedure and i have been using that tool for years on c900. As i said before it sure is tight but there are a couple of angles that the tool fits, final removal is done by hand. I use the tool just to break it loose from the oil filter housing.


What he said ^^^

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:17 pm 
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That explains it, I've never removed any parts when changing out filters. I also just use a tool to break to filter loose, then unscrew by hand. I'll have a look in the workshop manual later, curious now what Saab used to use.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:54 pm 
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Tim Duggan wrote:
My hands!! Seriously, only ever had one filter I couldn't remove by hand, wasn't put on by me - whoever did it must have been a gorilla! Had to hammer a screwdriver through it in the end. If you lube the rubber washer and do them up by hand, not too tight, you shouldn't have a problem.


This has been my experience so far.
I must say It's mightily awkward though !


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:01 pm 
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I am strong enough to do up a filter so it doesn't leak, but apparently not strong enough to undo one I tightened myself. Maybe I'm a bit overenthusiastic when going clockwise... I always lube the rubber ring with some engine oil.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:12 pm 
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I use an oil filter wrench I bought from Lidl - it has an adjustable band that goes round the filter. Works well and was very cheap - have used it for the last 9 years or so.
Using this I don’t need to remove anything.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Non-Food-Offers.htm?articleId=9580


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:33 pm 
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I use the pincer grip type also. The filter usually only needs a bit of gentle persuasion to get started. Access is tight but possible. First time I tried to service the car, I swear the filter had been welded on. Ended up with a ragged stump.

The same job on a 99 is even more fun...!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:18 pm 
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I've used this for more years than I care to remember


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:15 am 
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I've used this for more years than I care to remember


I still have one of those and used to use it on C900's & 99's until I picked up the wrench type above.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Do you find the new one easier to use Mal?
My old one can be a bit like trying to tame a snake at times


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:44 pm 
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I do for the reason you have mentioned :lol:

I only use it to get it moving, once moving I remove by hand.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:14 pm 
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I've now bought the Lidl one in Grossy's link, cheapy cheap and can't go wrong really, I only use one to start it off and the chain one can be a real pain to use even when trying to move the filter a fraction, had to either hammer the filter to a different shape or put a piece of rubber under the chain to pack it out and get grip


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:07 am 
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have had some right barstewards to remove being as the 'fitter' has put them on tight. I always hand tighten mine and never had a leak, but if it won't undo when replacing, I usually get a long shafted flat heat screwdriver, and just give the rim a couple of knocks anti clockwise to break the seal and it screws off.


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