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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:15 am 
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Just had my second in-warranty failure of a battery in two years. I bought Duracell-branded ones in the hope that they would be as reliable as any other name-brand but now not terribly convinced, so I suspect I shall be changing back to something .

Of course, it failed this time at 0545 and at 0degC with the car loaded and ready to go to Gatwick.

Luckily I had a spare, but I have never changed a battery so fast in my life. Being on a 9-5 with a Denso satnav, of course I have now lost the clock display!!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:46 am 
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Just had my second in-warranty failure of a battery in two years. I bought Duracell-branded ones in the hope that they would be as reliable as any other name-brand but now not terribly convinced, so I suspect I shall be changing back to something .

Of course, it failed this time at 0545 and at 0degC with the car loaded and ready to go to Gatwick.

Luckily I had a spare, but I have never changed a battery so fast in my life. Being on a 9-5 with a Denso satnav, of course I have now lost the clock display!!



I feel for you. Your heart sinks and it is a very cold (and dark) job at 0545, not what you want. Time for a heavier duty battery perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:58 am 
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modern batterys are carp

me nans 79 cortina battery lasted until about 2009

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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:47 pm 
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The Bosch S5 I fitted to my 900 back in early 2013 is still going ok considering it's been flattened no end of times and the car has had more than a few occasions where it's not moved for a month. The garage said it's starting to show its age this year so I can see me having to replace it next winter.

Would agree with the statement above though, modern sealed batteries definitely don't seem to last as well.

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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:59 pm 
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Duracell seem to be fairly new to car batteries, I always go with bosch, they seem good


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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:08 pm 
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Bosch S5 in mine - gets hammered too as I have approx 70 amps draw from my stereo equipment, been fine for the 3 years it's been fitted, flattened it a few times as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:27 pm 
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I often have doubts about the different 'Guarantee' periods with batteries. It sometimes seems like the extra you pay for a 5 year over a 3 year is actually an insurance fee and the batteries are basically the same.
My wife's Pug 207 is an '09 and, as she bought it at 3-4 years old, we assume that the Varta battery fitted is the original. 3 years ago on service the garage rang and said they had done a drop test and the battery was at the end of its life, did I want it changed. I declined as it had never given a problem (despite being used for mainly short local journeys) and their prices would not be cheap. That battery is still going strong and the car starts on the button.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:54 pm 
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Another vote for Bosch S5 here. Bought one for the 2.2TiD, at huge expense, as it's a massive battery required for the big diesel. Been consistent & reliable for two years now, even with repeated starts in cold conditions - when a 2.2 fires it's glow plugs, you know it's cold. So impressed I've been gradually replacing the whole fleet with Bosch S5 batteries.

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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:34 pm 
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I use platinum batteries from Motor Parts direct . Its around £60 for Berlingo , pug 307 and Saab
I think I paid £85 for a Sprinter van . They always last around 4 years plus
There one thing I notice with modern batteries compared with the old days . They give no warning that they are on their way out . One day they just wont work at all


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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:33 pm 
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For the past 10yrs or so ive been going with Bosch batteries for our cars. Mainly as we have a CostCo just down the road and they always do Bosch batteries very cheap. Compared to the likes of Halfords anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:38 pm 
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If you can't change a battery in under 5 minutes you aren't trying! :mrgreen:

The 9-5 is about the easiest I have ever done, resetting everything is another matter!


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 Post subject: Re: **** batteries!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:00 pm 
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Paul Taylor wrote:
For the past 10yrs or so ive been going with Bosch batteries for our cars.

How many Bosch batteries have you bought in that time?

scanditurbo wrote:
modern batterys are carp
me nans 79 cortina battery lasted until about 2009

While I might agree that modern, maintenance-free batteries probably don't have the same inherent longevity as old-style batteries that consume water and need maintenance, I'd say a lot of the blame should be put on modern cars. Your Nan's battery just had to start her Cortina and keep the headlamps, heater and rear screen working when the engine was idling too slowly for the (45A?) alternator to keep up, which probably didn't happen often. There would be no drain on it at any other time except for the clock (assuming it had one). The battery in a modern car has to do all that as well as run the fuel pump (15-20A) and umpteen gadgets, some of which draw current even when the car is parked up. The alternators in those cars are usually rated at over 90A, which gives some measure of the difference between old and modern electrical systems.

When I bought my T16S in 2004 it had a FIAMM battery in it, with a sticker on it saying it should be recharged by July 2002. I reckon, therefore, that it was about 2 years old when I acquired it. It was therefore probably 10 years old when the car was taken off the road pending some work and over the next few years went flat a couple of times due to neglect. It then found its way into my other half's Jeep when the cheap battery in it died and the FIAMM performed well for a couple of years, starting a 4.0 litre 6-cylinder lump of an engine a couple of times a day. It was probably about 16 years old when it died. I'd have another if I could find one. I know FIAMM are a well-respected manufacturer of many types of battery for industrial use but I haven't seen their car batteries for sale very often.

It was a heavy bugger too!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:27 am 
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For the past 10yrs or so ive been going with Bosch batteries for our cars.

How many Bosch batteries have you bought in that time?


They were for different cars, not the same cars !.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:03 am 
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Given the 2.8 V6's taste for batteries I decided to go with the Halfords one when the last one died over Christmas last year. And keep the receipt.

The previous one on there was only on for 3 years, but as the previous owner fitted it i couldn't claim on it's 5 year warranty.

The problem on the V6 is that it's right next to the turbo, so gets cooked. I've been tempted to get some of that gold thermal insulation as used on a Mclaren F1 and wrap the battery box with it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:14 am 
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Our local Costco keep the lower grade Bosch battery range.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:32 pm 
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I heard that Bosch S5 and Varta Silver are the same battery ... having bought both, I can confirm this is the case - and the Varta one is generally cheaper.

The only time I've had to replace a battery in the last 10 years was on a project car - which turned out to have the boot light permanently on courtesy of a misaligned boot lock :wall:

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Paul Taylor wrote:
BillJ wrote:
Paul Taylor wrote:
For the past 10yrs or so ive been going with Bosch batteries for our cars.

How many Bosch batteries have you bought in that time?


They were for different cars, not the same cars !.

Ah!
Having only bought one car in the last 15 years I sort of missed that point.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:16 pm 
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After a brand new duff Lion battery turned out to be a waste of time and space. Bought a 77Ah Varta Silver. A bit pricey but never let me down on my 1.9 DTi 9-3.

My old gen 9-3 with 2.2 diesel had a massive 100Ah odd Yuasa fitted to it when bought it nearly six years ago. Size and weight of a truck item. Never-ever let me down. cold weather and sitting for long periods.

They're expensive brands, but was better than the hassle of the car not working when need it to early in the morning! :shock:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:05 pm 
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Given the 2.8 V6's taste for batteries I decided to go with the Halfords one when the last one died over Christmas last year. And keep the receipt.

The previous one on there was only on for 3 years, but as the previous owner fitted it i couldn't claim on it's 5 year warranty.

The problem on the V6 is that it's right next to the turbo, so gets cooked. I've been tempted to get some of that gold thermal insulation as used on a Mclaren F1 and wrap the battery box with it.

The McLaren F1 had its engine bay lined with 24 carat gold leaf, because it's the best heat reflector there is. Allegedly.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:18 pm 
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Gold is a 99% efficient reflector of infrared light, so for radiative heat (such as that off a turbo or exhaust) its perfect.
Stick it on some glass fibre insulation and it's much improved for preventing convection heating up the gold insulation and conducting into what ever is behind the insulation.

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