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 Post subject: 9-3 TTID buyers guide?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:21 pm 
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Hey all,

I just want some opinions from all the experts around here!

I am looking for 9-3 ttid, I have aimed to get a 2011 model that's with 30 road tax. I have noticed their power output is only 168 where as the older model is 178.

Is the power differences only down the map? And is it worth getting one at 2011 or newer?

What are the common issues to look out for these cars?

Are they comfortable on a long journey? Currently, I have a 147 jtd but the wife doesn't find that comfortable at all.

With regarding remap and removing DPF, which company is the best?

Do people blank the EGR, as that's a done deal thing in the Alfa world, but would obviously do it when I get it remapped.

Thanks for all your help.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:17 am 
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Car Model: TTid's only now :-(
in 2011 there was a 130, 160 and 180 ps versions of TTid's (equiv to 128, 158 and 177 bhp) as the single turbo 120 and 150 versions were dropped

Aero's were 180 only
Vector Sport could be 160 or 180
Linears were 130

All are the same engine, just tuined differently, all can be mapped to 210bhp, although hirch only do the 130 to 180 as it has the smallest brakes.
130 to 210 must be a fun upgrade though :-)

Only the 180 ps ones got bigger 314mm brakes on Aero's

2011's have great tax ratings and are mappable, and have the newer A19DTR engine with newer inlet manifold and 3 yrs develpement.

Common issues, Alternators fail, front springs break and the front exhaust flexi fails every few years.
If it has the 2 tone seats, the colour flash insert cracks on the seat bolster
rear banana links can knock after a few years
strut top bearing can creak
anti roll bar drop links can knock.

None of these are serious.

Long journeys are fine, I've done 400 miles at 60mpg and had no back/leg trouble
Were one with a blanked EGR, the 2 others without, both are fine. just blanking withouyt mapping will light the CEL.
DPF's seem to be fine on these as long as you do the off 20-30 mile journey

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:08 pm 
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Hey

Thanks for that, will be really helpful when i come to view the car!

Who are the goto guy for tuning / DPF removal / EGR blank / Swiral flapped removed?

I am based in Essex, but don't mind a bit of travel to someone that is known to be good.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:45 pm 
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There is a guy here Teapots (Paul) who has a good reputation for mapping the diesels and he is down your way.
He comes from the Vauxhall camp and has a lot of experience with the Z19DTX engines ie TID,TTID's etc.

He has worked his magic on both of my TID's with no hardware mods which imho is the best approach ie EGR permanently closed,swirls flaps permanently open.

DPF's are untouched and will remain so until there is a problem....then I will drill and map out.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:52 pm 
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Thanks I have emailed him.

Is this the right blanking plate?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/221352046822

Or anywhere you recommend buying it


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:55 am 
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Can i ask a 11 plate 180 BHP version, previously CAT D, 80k miles. Timing belt and water pump are due.

£3000 is that a good value?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:05 pm 
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a Bump please :D!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Yep, pretty good value :-)

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YcMing wrote:
Thanks I have emailed him.

Is this the right blanking plate?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/221352046822

Or anywhere you recommend buying it



Yes, correct one.

You will need an extra gasket to.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:01 am 
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Got it perfect !

Swirl flap blanks is there a guide on this ? And where to buy those ?

Sorry new to the diesel game

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:03 am 
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You dont need to fit a blanking plate or mess with the swirl flaps if you fix em with software!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:40 am 
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Great information !

I guess else dpf that's do need gutted out ?

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Just remember that gutting a DPF is now illegal, and there are substantial fines for both the owner/driver and the garage/person who removed it. Most garages who know about the legislation will no longer remove a DPF.

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As parts go, DPFs don't seem that expensive. If you do the mileage why would you need to replace them?

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YcMing wrote:
Got it perfect !

Swirl flap blanks is there a guide on this ? And where to buy those ?

Sorry new to the diesel game

Thanks


I've left my swirl flaps as is, not sure if it help low rpm response or not...., just blanked the EGR and kept the DPF.

2011 will have thge newer inlet manifold on anyway which had revised (less prone to falling off) flaps

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:10 am 
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Squidula wrote:
As parts go, DPFs don't seem that expensive. If you do the mileage why would you need to replace them?


Unfortunately the market is flooded with cheap aftermarket £200 DPF's which seem to last nearly as long as a chinese CPS.........so ideally need OEM which last time I looked cost £500 plus.

DPF's eventually block due to involatile ash regardless of mileage but life expectancy should be around 100K unless the car has been "incorrectly used" (the salesman didnt tell me I couldnt drive the car back and forward to the shops or pick the kids up from school in it)

I think a good option should be to remove and professionally reverse flush and clean,although the band wagon is rolling on this and prices seem high for this type of service.There are some amusing DIY's for this on youtube for example...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBH8kuBav6Y

Another option is to part drill the DPF (half a dozen holes pepperpot style) and then remap.
A consequence of this would be some increased smoke levels.

Smoke limits for diesels are changing early next year (halving) which will potentially fail more cars that have had the DPF fiddled with (or not).

When the time comes I think I would prefer the remove and clean option


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:22 am 
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YcMing wrote:
Can i ask a 11 plate 180 BHP version, previously CAT D, 80k miles. Timing belt and water pump are due.

£3000 is that a good value?


I bought an 09 Cat D Sportwagon TID with 63K for a bit less early this year so you may be looking at a bargain.
Really depends on what else you can find wrong with the car and if you need to spend money to put it right.
The timing belt and water pump is an easy DIY and for the cost of parts maybe £100.
A Tech2 scan would help pinpoint any issues

Assuming there is a fresh MOT,you intend to keep the car for a while,and your insurance wont complain ..... no reason not to like it imho.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:43 pm 
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Great information everyone. Already spoken to teapot and will update everyone once I pick it up Saturday

If flap and egr can am disabled that be great.

Main use of the Car will be going to Scotland and weekly shops !

Thanks again
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:47 am 
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Hey I have tried to look online blue with it being a TTID and turbo edition should I expect for it to have 11 speakers ? Thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:36 am 
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You will get the full build spec on www.thesaabsite.com
Put the VIN into the search box top left....then additional details.
You can get the VIN from the reg if you dont have it (tip try http://www.blue-print.com/blueprintlive/)


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